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The Skateboarder's Odyssey with Zach Peacock: Part 2
Skateboarding's not just about the tricks; it's about the stories, the culture, and the people that turn the wheels. That's exactly what we capture in our latest chat with Zach Peacock as we meander through the legacies of legends like Spike Jonze, who seamlessly stitched skateboarding into the fabric of film and photography. Our conversation swerves from the spectacle of extreme sports, funded by the likes of Red Bull, to the intimate connections within the motorcycle community, proving that behind every kickflip and custom bike, there's a tale waiting to be told.
Remember those days when a freshly unwrapped skate video could keep you up at night with anticipation? We take a trip down memory lane, reliving those moments while also appreciating the evolution from sponsor-me tapes to the pure joy of witnessing raw talent. As we reflect on the special encounters with skate icons, Zach and I also dissect the current skate scene, drawing parallels with economic challenges that resonate across various industries.
Yet, life's not all about perfect landings and smooth rides. We dive into the deeper end, addressing the sobering topics of crisis and suicide among friends, underscoring the significance of community and support during the darkest times. Our heartfelt exchange reminds us to embrace life with audacity, to reach out, and hold on to the shared bonds that can sometimes be the only lifeline. Join us for an episode that melds the adrenaline of extreme sports with the compassion of real human connection, and everything in between.
Hello, hello. This is Zach Batista from B2Z Podcast, and last episode we left off at photography and videography of skateboarding horses and pole dancers, as well as acknowledging the film talents of skateboarding legend Spike Jones. And now, without further ado, what you've all been waiting for the continuation of the Skateboarders Odyssey with Zach Peacock.
Brandon May:It was fully flared set up. No, that was just on the street.
Zach Peacock:The intro was like that was purposeful. They set that up and did all that.
Brandon May:But it's just a skate video. It's just run and gun, get after it. What about the skate video Almost or yeah Right? Is it yeah Right?
Zach Peacock:Are you talking about Cheese and Crackers on the mini ramp?
Zach Peacock:Nah, they're doing all of these crazy things and also so girl skateboards, it's under the, the umbrella of crail tap. Crail tap is like royal trucks, girl and chocolate skateboards, four-star clothing, leaving somebody out, whatever. All those, those little entities that they have under that umbrella. Their real type was spike, spike j, and spike Jones is a skateboarder and film skateboarding with his friends and grew up riding BMX and skateboards and he just happened to be skating with Eric Costin and Mike Carroll and Rick Howard. That was his group of people. So as he got better at filming and then, like somebody saw his, like a video that he had produced, and then they were like, oh shit, will you film our music video? So then, like the beastie boys, whoever runs the beastie boys hit him up. So he did all the beastie boys music videos. So he has, like this wealth of music video filming because of skateboarding. He got him into music videos and then he started filming like he did her and where the wild things are spike spike.
Zach Peacock:He's done so many amazing, real big budget movies that dude's a fucking skateboarder yeah and so these skits that are in all those girl videos that you're talking about, like the invisible boards and like the like, all that stuff, like there, there is these skits that are very cinematic and very, those are all spike. Every bit of is spike, and so he's been like a heavy part of all that, like introducing cinema into skateboarding.
Brandon May:How do you feel about the overproduction side of things in extreme sports Like Red Bull?
Zach Peacock:I love dude. My favorite Instagram is Red Bull's Instagram. Like, I strive towards that kind of shit. Like, yeah, they're getting permit, they're pulling permits and yeah, they're like it. A lot of it is like they've took the time to do control, it's controlled situations. But there is still people like they have the money and they are putting the money back into this shit. Anytime. Somebody's putting the money back, like red bull and monster and all that. I don't drink energy drinks at all, but the fact that they have the money to put into this shit and they like, like I don't. There's other companies that don't give a shit about skateboarding or extreme sports or whatever, but these companies are funding these situations and it's like they could not very well be doing any of this shit. They don't have to do any of this stuff, but they know that this is what people want to see. Yes, human beings being pushed to the limits and finding the limits.
Brandon May:Right. Skateboarding is in a rough spot right now.
Zach Peacock:I think it's just everything Like the industry, like tattooing, is slow. My buddy Steve like the motorcycle industry is slow. I think he said he's down $100,000 from last year. Holy shit. Like everybody is taking a hit right now. But like everybody is taking a hit right now, but it's just. The state of the world is wild right now you're going to born free yeah, I go to born every year who are you going out there with?
Zach Peacock:with steve okay, yeah, because I'm fun, because I'm with steve, like I the last three years that I've been with him or so, like he's been documenting four speed kings at born free and I get to go and enjoy it, like that's the nice thing about knowing what I need to shoot what are the perks of that job, of what like working with uh?
Zach Peacock:I wasn't sure if you missed cycle brain I got to see behind the veil, like I got to see like how the industry actually is and it's dope. Like I'm meeting up with people that are like really tied into these all these things you see on the internet. You're like, damn, that's a dope bike. Like how long did that take? I know how long that bike took to build. I know how long the bike behind me, I know how long that bike took to build.
Zach Peacock:And you're seeing, I know when somebody's coming up with something, I know how many people are actually pulling the strings behind this shit, and so that was the tight thing. And then, uh, obviously the perks are like hanging out with these bike builders that you've like been like I was all gassed Like when you meet your first pro skateboarder that they're bigger to me the movie stars. So when I'd meet my first pro skateboarder, I'd be like, oh fuck, that's Mac chef over there. Fuck, that's Mac chef. And then you get into like motorcycles and you're like, oh fuck, that's. That's like this face Super famous.
Zach Batista:There's all these things.
Zach Peacock:You feel me. Yeah, like all the San Diego Custom guys Ricky Carmichael, James Stewart.
Brandon May:Yeah, the.
Zach Peacock:San Diego Custom dudes. I'm like. Their bikes are fucking tough Evil, fucking Knievel.
Zach Peacock:Exactly, but a lot of those dudes aren't alive anymore. Yeah, and those are your dirt bike guys. I didn't come up in the dirt bike shit so for me it was more the street. Yeah, and all the unknown guys, the unknown industries out of san diego, like all those unknown dudes, do they're the first guys doing wheelies on harley's documented. That was like I was attracted, like I'm not interested in anything at a base level. If you're taking this boring shit and you're doing something wild with it, then I'm interested. Yeah, that's. Yeah, I'm not interested in motorcycles, I'm interested in pushing motorcycles to their breaking point right, right and you and you do that.
Brandon May:You know I used to be like dang, I don't even need a bike. I used to get enjoyment.
Zach Batista:With a bike carousel through them.
Brandon May:Yeah, what'd you get today, he would let me ride every one of them.
Zach Peacock:You know what I mean. I'm not one of those guys that's like a pavement queen, like this is my fucking baby. Like those guys it's like like a pavement queen, like this is my fucking baby. Like it's got 30 miles on the bike because you ride it every fucking weekend and that's it. Like, no, no, no, like the bike that I have right now. I got it at the end of december 23. We're now april 24 and my bike has almost 3 500 miles on it I got some like some quick questions.
Brandon May:What are your skate brands right now? If you're getting trucks like get, run us through a board setup, what's your deck gonna be?
Zach Peacock:well, the board right now, just because I'm I'm deeper than that, like my particular things about it is the shape, like I. I follow brands because of the shape of the board and all skateboarders have the madness. We're all crazy particular.
Zach Peacock:That's why I'm sure that's why you asked this question, because every one of us are lunatics and we have, like, our specific things about it everyone's a little different too for a little and like, literally like little weird millimeters is like I'm like, oh, I'm not riding 56 wheels, I'm not bombing hills, I'm not cruising like I have a hardness to my wheel, I have like. So, with that being said, shane o'neill's shape of board that he's been riding since the old days, like he was on. I started following Shane O'Neill just because obviously he's an amazing skateboarder, but when he was on Skate Metal he had the same shape on Skate Metal that he had on Primitive and now his own brand, april Skateboards. So his shape on April has been my favorite shape and it's an 8.125. That's the size board that I ride.
Brandon May:That's bigger than normal, huh no?
Zach Peacock:8.125 is smaller than 8.25, but it's bigger than an 8-inch board.
Brandon May:Okay.
Zach Peacock:And to today's standards that's a small board. Most people ride an 8.5, 8.6. Okay, all that weird massive like to me. I don't ride any of that shit. Like, I want a smaller, I want smaller. I want to flip my board. I want to like be able, I want it to be maneuverable. So I bounce between an 8.125 and an 825, eight and a quarter, but usually it's 8.125. So it's 8.125 april board and it can't be eight and an eighth in. An eighth isn't the same as 8.125. That's different.
Brandon May:They're micro millimeters apart but it makes a fucking difference. And when you're going all right, when you're going and you're buying another deck, right, and you're trying to reduplicate the shape or you're trying to improve upon the shape, I don't, I don't.
Zach Peacock:I'm at the point too, like I said, like the change, like I struggle with fighting change, so I know that I can do all the tricks that I can do on that Shane 8.125. So I'll call every skateboard shop in Southern California Like, hey, you guys got that April Shane 8.125? And one of them will have it eventually. Or I can buy it from the website. The website has it, but I don't want to pay the $25 shipping and I like to go into the shop. I like to touch shit.
Brandon May:I like to get to FaceTime with the fucking dude who's selling me the board. How many years have you been skating? I?
Zach Peacock:got baby pictures on a skateboard but I didn't start.
Zach Batista:We're going to have to get those pictures.
Zach Peacock:I'm saying I didn't, I didn't give a shit about the, I was just pushing her. It was a toy, it was a children's toy until sixth grade. Sixth grade, I was like, oh, you can move. That's when it clicked. You can do shit on this. And then seventh and eighth grade, cause I was like a little cholo. I grew up in like all Hispanic and black neighborhoods. It was like I had like the little bit of hair on the front of my my head slicked back shaved head.
Zach Batista:I had like the cholo haircut.
Zach Peacock:Yeah, yeah, dickies flannels, bone thugs in harmony Tupac. And then I got into seventh grade and I was like oh, there's other white people in my area that I live in. I didn't see other white kids until seventh grade and all the other just coincidentally, the white kids were the skateboarders and they were big baggy fucking clothes Like this is the 90s Big baggy clothes, skate company logos and all this shit. And I was like what the fuck? I was like addicted. I was like what the fuck is that? And I was like what the fuck is that? And then they were like show me a skate video. What the fuck is a skate video?
Brandon May:Yeah.
Zach Peacock:So we're watching Fulfill the Dream and Rodney Mullen versus Daewon Song like all these original skate videos from my era like the girl mouse and chocolate, like the chocolate tour. We're watching all this shit and I was just like my fucking brain exploded Right because you had to wait to get the tape.
Zach Batista:It's not like you could just open up your phone. There was no YouTube, no, no, there was no social.
Brandon May:You put it on and you're just glued to the TV.
Zach Peacock:Yeah, man, we're going to the local skate shops. At the time it was Rebel, like it was Rebel and BSA Board Shops of America. Those are the two local skate shops. When I was growing up and like I'd go to thoseater brothers and get like a thrasher or trans world skateboarding and then you'd see in them and they'd be advertising, advertising y'all fucking new skate videos coming out and I go to the skate shop and I'd be like you guys got this shit yet. And they're like no, maybe next month. And I come back and but we were there all the time hanging out. We're degenerates, dude. We didn't do shit. We go to school and go to the skate shop who's your favorite skateboarder right now?
Zach Peacock:of all time.
Zach Peacock:It's always been brent, actually, okay, yeah brennan's always changed because brent actually is style like I don't care about how hard the trick is, I care about how good the trick looks. And brent actually has made uh. I mean, he's been pro for a long time but his career has ups and downs and stuff. He's like super, he's like the, maybe like the Cypress Hill of skateboarding, like everybody knows who he is, but he's not in the light, so that. But Brent actually is my favorite Cause he makes you want to skate by pushing down the street, parker street Park, cause I like transitions. Okay, yeah, I'm a tranny skater.
Zach Peacock:Uh, stairs or manual pad I grew up watching rodney moan and day long song, so I'm always gonna pick a man man, that's my first skater that I have met in person and it was fucking nuts.
Brandon May:It was a yeah like inspiring moment. I've never seen, you know, outside of like my homies and stuff like that, but somebody who's like got a stamp on their fucking name skate, that shit is unbelievable.
Brandon May:Yeah, you know, it's like watching a contortionist, a fucking you know, uh, one of these circus to soleil type things it's an awe-inspiring experience when and I got to skate with him, you know, with me and davis, one of my homies we went out to like city industry. He was gonna do some underground competition or some shit. We went to to like city industry, he was gonna do some underground competition or some shit. We went to this warehouse and day one song was just there and I was like immediately scared as fuck yeah I was like oh, do you get like that?
Zach Peacock:sometimes you get, I don't get starstruck anymore, but I will, I'll work my way up to it like and what I mean by that is, uh, I'm not gonna like when I was a kid, I'd be trying to do the hardest shit I knew how to do in front of those pro skaters, because then you want them to to give you props or be like damn, I was tired, or whatever, or maybe they can get you sponsored, because I grew up in the era of having to send in sponsor me tapes or bumping into a pro.
Zach Peacock:And then, and then being that, like, you always hear about those like those like golden ticket situations where it's like the pros at the spot and you're ripping and they're like, hey, give me a call tomorrow, or whatever, and you're like, oh fuck, I'm gonna skate for this company maybe. So that was my generation of doing that. So for me, like, I kind of felt like I had to show off when the pros were around. Now I don't fucking care about any of that, and there are people too, and so that was that's the thing is like when I I'm more hyped and I'm like, ah fuck, I get to see this person in person.
Brandon May:Right.
Zach Peacock:Instead of just on the internet, we got a little sidetracked. My my setup is 8.125.
Brandon May:Yeah, yeah.
Zach Peacock:I read independent trucks. I read one, 39, cause that's the accurate size for the board, cause you want to have your trucks to match the board, 53 millimeter bones wheels. And they're the one, oh ones. I like the harder wheels, I don't want no soft wheels. The, I think it's I forget what the name is of the wheel, but they're side cuts. It's like the b it's. It's not the a, it's the b one, so that the side of the wheel is completely cut off so I can lock into shit better. Yeah, and then seven eights hardware uh, bone swiss bearings and then some kind of mob grip like a number three or number four mob grip man.
Brandon May:Okay, so for all of those who know what all of that means. There you go. You feel me, I know some of that stuff, but not all of it, but I know that's important to some of you guys out there. So there's that information. I do have a question. Uh, every morning you come in and you watch, uh or I call it you do research. Yeah, you know, it's like your morning meeting.
Zach Peacock:You watch your?
Brandon May:podcast you get into your interest for the month or for the. You know, yeah, what is your interest and what are you researching right now?
Zach Peacock:I could care less about school when I was a kid, and then the second. You get out of school. All you want to do is learn and like you can't get enough of that shit.
Zach Peacock:So and youtube is a wealth of that so I'll sit in here I make I got my routine, I make a bagel, you know what. I sit down and then I watch, I get on youtube and then I mean the algorithm's pretty good on youtube, on like instagram to where it knows what I want to watch, so sending me like pop it up, yeah, tech videos, motorcycle videos, skateboarding videos and all that. So I'm just like obsessed with like the newest thing, so that. And people ask me a lot like oh, what do you like? What's a good podcasting mic? I'm not podcasting, but I know what's a good podcasting mic.
Zach Peacock:What's the best iPhone? What's the best what have laptop? It's like I don't. I'm not buying these things on the regular, but I know what they are because I like I like learning about why it makes that the best thing, and so that's like that's, that's the. That's the biggest part of it was for me, it's just learning as much as I can about all the weird little industries. I want to know about the newest cameras. I want to know about the newest anything the new, some weird skate tech that might be coming out.
Brandon May:Very technology based. Is there anything on your radar that you're waiting to get right now? Technology- wise.
Zach Peacock:The weird cameras have reached. Technology has reached a peak with with cameras. Right now you can go 8k. They have cameras that do all this other fancy extra shit. Honestly, it's like we've reached a point. Like most people's TVs are like 4k TVs, so you're not seeing much of a difference. You can get an 8k TV, but you're going to downscale it to 4k or you're going to downscale it to 1080 and then upload it on YouTube. Youtube's not showing you 8k videos and it's like for the. There is 8k TVs but there's not that many platforms haven't caught up with it yet.
Zach Batista:It's not there yet.
Zach Peacock:So with cameras we've kind of reached a point like right now, if we're filming this, I'm filming at 4k, at 24 frames a second and like eight or 10 bit if I'm going to color grade it 10 bit probably. So there's those little things that you would have it set up. But that's a pretty baseline that your phone does better than that. Like I have a seven S, three, a Sony camera and it does all these amazing things. And most of the time, like I'm using those amazing things on a niche Like if the job calls for that, then I'll use the low light, if the job calls for a 10 bit, then I'm going to use 10 bit. But most of the time if you're just putting something on the internet, like all of us are doing, I'll film 4K 24 for like an interview type thing.
Zach Peacock:If I want to slow down, I'll use 4K 60 if I'm shooting skating or something like that. But if I want it really slow then I'll use like 4K 120 if I want to slow it down even more, I like shooting in 4K because I have the ability to reframe the footage. But honestly it's like that's kind of it. Almost every camera that you buy today on the market does everything I just said. That's why I say I feel like we've kind of reached a level with technology. If you're, if you're in a niche market, if you want a thousand frames, a second slow-mo, there's two camera companies that like there's I mean there's a couple, but there's two sub $20,000. There's two companies that you can get a body, a camera body, to do that.
Brandon May:That's a crazy area to be in too, because now it's a matter of what you're shooting.
Zach Peacock:Once everything plateaus out and it gets very competitive, again it's we're back to a point where the content, what you're doing, is what's important, like, if you like is is it cinematic? Are you telling a story right? Is the person you're interviewing worth a shit? There's all that. That's kind of like what it's all come back down around Fucks.
Brandon May:I mean, I don't know, man, like, how long am I knowing you now?
Zach Peacock:Since how long you've been tattooing what?
Brandon May:are you doing with your pictures? Like are you? Are you going to put them on a gallery?
Zach Peacock:Well, if you've we have art shows here all the time yeah, and I like they. It's the shitty thing about the, about instagram and the internet is like things go on there to die yeah like nobody's. But what I've been being more mindful about is when I shoot shit now is I'm like, oh, this would make a dope print. So if you look around the room that we're sitting in everything in here other than the two photos that you shot that are right behind your head- yeah everything else in here, I took yeah, so that's I was looking yeah, I used to work here, guys, and I was wondering if my photos were still up.
Zach Peacock:They're still up they're rad. They're still on the wall.
Brandon May:That'll tell you how good they are yeah, I used to shoot photography for a long time when there's no use to that's like some skateboarding bullshit cop I do I do?
Brandon May:I just, uh, been focusing on other things. When I came to Elizabeth street, that was one of the things I was excited about is I got to talk to him about photography and man, we, we always would just kick things around. You know he would be doing a technique and I'd be like, hey, man, how you doing that technique? You know, uh, to improve our tattoo photography most of the time Then we'd also just fuck around in the front too. You know, somebody had a bike out front and we'd do a little commercial real quick, or you know.
Zach Peacock:We were marketing ourselves before we even knew what the fuck that was. Yeah, like we were just filming shit because we're like, damn, this will make a cool little video Right, like that one. Like one of my favorite videos I shot in the shop was one of you tattooing that. That, uh, that older woman, that one time like with that, uh, with that killer mic song.
Zach Peacock:yeah, fuck man, that's like one of my favorite videos yeah and that was just like you just you film a bunch of bullshit. Because like, oh, I watched this youtube video on how to do this weird little effect or edit and premiere. And so now I'm like, now I'm trying to recreate that and like I have people in my life like how extreme do I want to go? Do I just want it to be a cool tattoo video? Or do I want to call one of my buddies who can do wheelies for fucking six blocks and get like a cool motorcycle video? Or like, do I want to call my friend who like rides horses amazingly, like I like knowing all these different avenues so that I can like, like how many views do I want this to get? Cause I will get a gorgeous girl to spin around on the pole and I'll get a million views.
Zach Batista:Easily.
Zach Peacock:Or if I want this to just be about the art, then I'm going to go like film somebody painting or film somebody tattooing or that kind of shit.
Brandon May:And the only way you get those pole jobs is if you're not a fucking creep.
Zach Peacock:You can't be a kook man, you can't be a kook man, you can't be a fucking creep man like he tattoos a ton of women my clientele is like 97 98 female.
Brandon May:I tattoo a ton of women. The only way that happens is if you're not fucking googling over them and you, you're respectful. Actually, I told a lady the other day. I was like I don't fucking give a fuck what you are. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like that shit doesn't matter to me. Well, you know what gender you are. Like I'm going to cause. She was like I can't believe you're talking to me like that, cause I sent a message which I didn't know. I sent it. It was kind of fucked up, but in the moment that shit fit you know what a fucked up soft time. Right now she's like my husband is sharing the instagram and he saw it too and I was like well, he didn't fucking say anything so what I was like?
Zach Batista:yeah, I was like well, he didn't fucking say anything.
Brandon May:Don't call me out on it yet then I started talking shit. But yeah, good times, man. Give me a good story. Give me a funny story, either within tattooing, skateboarding or within the motorcycle industry. Give me something funny that's happened to you or something. Yeah, give me something.
Zach Peacock:So this is the one that I tell everybody, cause, like, customers always come in and they always ask, like what's the wildest shit that that's happened to you? I started tattooing after the night. I started tattooing, like I mean, I've been tattooing my friends since like 2008, 2009, 2010 or whatever, but I started taking it serious like 2011. That's when I tried to get into a shop and do all that shit, but we had this thing called tattoo Fridays at my mom's house. My mom didn't give a fuck. She's like you guys want to drink, you guys want to fuck off? I didn't ever drink, but my friends did, and it was like a safe, safe place or whatever. So we'd come there and all my friends would get trashed and then they would just I'd just do dumb shit on them.
Zach Peacock:I like, and we do it like every other Friday. Sometimes it'd be every Friday. Like I tattoo him till like four or five in the morning. I tattooed all. My best friend, dave Garlinger. I tattooed a diamond on the bottom of his foot because he was trash, played 18. Well, he forgot that he was gonna go golfing the next day so all day I'm getting text messages like fuck you, you, piece of shit you tattooed me and I'm like let me do that.
Zach Batista:Fuck you, bitch you were.
Zach Peacock:You were threatening my life the night before so I was like you, fucking bitch, you're the one who, like you, asked for it, fuck you, that's why I did it, yeah. So anyways, that was like that's just like the precursor to everything. So everybody always asks me, like what's the wildest shit? That, like, because the 90s were wild. I didn't tattoo in the 90s, I just got all the stories I got tattooed in the 90s. But uh, I mean, I know like I've been getting tattoos since I was 14. So because anybody listening to this might be like you're not old enough to be getting tattooed in the 90s, like I know, I was getting tattooed in garages.
Zach Peacock:Yeah, we know, in the back of tattoo shops yeah.
Zach Peacock:In the fucking 90s. Yeah, you got money, you got tattooed. Yeah, that's how it was. They didn't give a fuck how old you were, whatever Anyways, so the wildest, whenever a customer asks me like what's the wildest shit? I haven't had too many weird wild encounters tattooing, but this was the wildest one that happened to me. We were at the tattoo shop in Marina Valley that we used to be in and this girl comes in and she's like hey, I need to get a coverup. I'm like all right, what do you want to get covered up? And she's pretty, she's real flirty, whatever. And I was with my ex-girlfriend Danielle at the time and she so I'm like I'm not trying and like that's kook shit, like we just talked about, like I'm not trying to hit on the fucking customer.
Zach Batista:Anyways it's business.
Zach Peacock:You don't shit where you eat. So she's coming in and I'm just trying to like whatever. So I'm talking to this chick and she is like ah, I got to get this tattoo covered up. And I'm like okay, I'm like what is it? What do you like? What do you want to get covered up with? She just drops her pants. She's wearing some. This is the Juicy Couture times.
Zach Batista:Oh, yeah, yeah, the Juicy Couture sweatsuit, yeah, yeah.
Zach Peacock:She just pulls. She's not wearing underwear, no shit, and she just yanks down her pants and she's got her sweatpants around mid-thigh, yeah, and she's pointing right above her shit. Come on, she's pointing right above her shit. Come on At this name that she has. And it's a tiny little name. It's probably like an inch wide by like a quarter of an inch tall and it's just some dude's name. I don't remember what the fucking dude's name was.
Zach Peacock:She's in the lobby of the tattoo shop. Everybody's there. There's customers waiting to get tattooed. Like I'm just trying to paint the picture. There's a bunch of people in the lobby and she just drops trout right there and I was like, oh fuck, we're doing it. So I'm trying not to like, try not to be a creep about it.
Zach Peacock:The shit just yanked her pants down and isn't wearing underwear. And she's like I got to get this covered up. And I'm like, okay, what do you want to cover it up with? And so then we go back and forth for a little and I was like, okay, cool, I'm assuming at this point that they got a divorce. They broke up. Whatever. She has this dude's name tattooed on her, right above her business. It's like it's below the waist but it's above her shit. Yeah, you know that's the area and so we do everything. We set the appointment up. We ended up landing on. I was like why don't you just cover her with like a star? I don't know if she had a star on her arm or like why I went to that, maybe the juicy couture sweatsuit.
Brandon May:I was like oh, you're simple, you'll get some stars on your. Stars was a thing on your basic. That's right, 2011.
Zach Batista:You know, like maybe people were still getting stars. So then, uh, a month goes by, or?
Zach Peacock:however long it was, to the appointment. She comes back and we didn't do walk-ins at that shop and so set her up with an appointment. She comes back. She's wearing something similar. I'm just comfortable. You don't want to get tattooed and be uncomfortable, which is funny, because I'll usually talk shit on people for not getting dressed like. When I see somebody at starbucks wearing like pajamas, I'm like the fuck couldn't get your fucking clothes on. Yeah, you asshole, it takes two seconds to put pants on.
Zach Peacock:Put your fucking pants on so anyway, like, like I, I'm opinionated, so she comes in to get tattooed and then so same thing happens. She comes into my booth.
Zach Peacock:We had rooms but there's no doors on the room and like you can see through, like if you're at the back of my room at that shop, you could see like there was a drawing desk on the outside of the room, so there's like four people drawing and can see into the booth, right in booth, right in no big deal, and it's like it's creepy. You got doors on your fucking booths in your tattoo shop, like yeah, you have to take the doors off. So we're, there were rooms, but they didn't have any doors on them. So she comes into my booth and she I was like all right, cool, like this is, let's see if this fits pulls her pants off, just yanks them down, like she puts her thumbs into the waistband and just pulls them down mid-thigh, okay, so now I'm getting down on my knees because I need to be. Yeah, she was super pretty, super pretty, which was fucked up, and everything looked nice too. We'll say that.
Zach Peacock:So, it was fucked up. So, I get down on my knees because I need to be straightforward with putting the stencil on. You're not going to put a stencil on somebody's waist. Standing up and leaning down on stupid doesn't work like that doesn't make sense because, like most people might be like, what's your new fucking knees?
Zach Peacock:you know, like people's bullshit, yeah, yeah. So anyways, I get down on my knees. I have the stencil of the star. It was like three stars there was the big star in the middle and then there's two small stars next to it, just so it kind of like almost like a gradient, like a fade of stars wonder woman basically good.
Zach Peacock:So I hold the stencil up and the stencil covers that and I was like oh look it's. I didn't want to have. I didn't want her to have like this eight inch star or lower stomach Look at, and we're going to black this thing out. Yeah, I was able to look ridiculous. Why do you have a solid black star on your lower stomach? The fucking, what happened? Obvious. So I made the star just big enough to cover the tattoo and then the other ones were kind of shaded, so it had some style to it. So I was like all right, this works, make a stencil, put the stencil on. She lays on the bed like the massage table to get tattooed. I'm tattooing her and she's just like immediately like moaning, oh shit, and not like in pain moaning, yeah, but she's just like porn star moaning. And'm like god damn it, dude, this sucks. I got a girlfriend this chick is wild, dude like. And then I like I'd be tattooing her and I'm like in her shit.
Zach Peacock:I'm like on her lower stomach tattooing her shit, and I'd occasionally look up and everybody that's drawing at the table is looking it's like they got their head in the fucking booth, like they all got a big smile on their face like, ah, zach got a fucked up client today. Yeah, so I'm doing the tattoo, and then she's saying wild shit the whole time. She's just like damn, I wish I would have wore underwear today, like oh, she was trying to.
Zach Peacock:Yeah, she's wild dude, real wild and I didn't know what to say. I was just like this is my first six months tattooing in a shop. Oh shit, so I'm. These are my first experiences with dealing with these kind of people and so I'm like I'm tattooing. I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, I guess you should have like I'm doing my job, I'm trying to pull brandon can attest to this. Brian brandon knows that that spot to tattoo the lower stomach, the skin sucks, dude. It's like the armpit. The armpit, the back of the knee, the elbow ditch the knee, ditch the inner thigh. These are all soft skin areas and they fucking suck. You gotta stretch like crazy. There's no tension behind it. So I'm right above a woman's business and I'm trying to stretch while, like not being a creep, I'm not trying to stretch into her vagina, you know like trying to hover and stuff.
Zach Peacock:Yeah, dude I'm all up in her shit and I'm pulling line, I'm trying to tattoo it. She's saying this wild shit, she's moaning, it's out of control, dude. So I get the tattoo done and then, like I put, there wasn't, we weren't using second, there was no second skin back then. So I just put a little piece of saran wrap, I tape it up clean. She goes, looks at it, she's like, oh, it's perfect. Oh, and when I left out was I asked her. I was like trying to make conversation because she's moaning. So I'm trying to get her to stop moaning Break it up, yeah, so.
Zach Peacock:I go so what's up? Did you get a divorce, like you and your boyfriend Like I'm sorry to hear, and she goes oh, no, no, no, we're still together. Oh, come on, I was like, and I didn. Was like, okay, I'm covering up somebody's name that you're still with. I don't know where the fuck this is, and obviously you're still in a relationship, right, and you're throwing it out there like that.
Zach Batista:this is fucking wild yeah, you don't even want to know where it's going on, yeah, so I was like all right, cool.
Zach Peacock:So we bandaged the tattoo and, like I said the whole time, she's just like fucking moaning. She's saying wild shit. It was a wild situation and if I was a piece of shit, boyfriend, maybe I would have acted on it. But and it's like and I'm not trying to like I said my shit where I sleep, right, where I eat, and so we bandage it up and all like that. There's. Every guy knows this. Maybe women know this too, because they might be knowing that they're doing this. There's two types of hugs that you get from a woman, and one of them is like they kind of poke the ass out you know like you get one of those like or you get like the over the shoulder, that kind of like plays into the ass, out hug where they're just like give me a hug, the fuck out casual.
Zach Batista:But yeah, she doesn't want to.
Zach Peacock:She's like trying to be nice.
Zach Batista:Okay, I'm learning no ass out hugs. Yeah, that's the thing. There's two types of hugs.
Brandon May:There's that one the ass out.
Zach Peacock:Hug is kind of like we're friends or like I'm just giving you a hug because you leaned in.
Zach Batista:So I'm humoring you.
Zach Peacock:The second kind of hug is where they push their crotch into you On bugglies, okay.
Zach Batista:And so you go to give them a hug.
Brandon May:We'll call that the cooter hug.
Zach Peacock:And they lean in so you get that hug. She pushed so I didn't even go for a hug, like I kind of put my hand out and she reached in for a hug. So I was like okay, cool, and my mom, like I said, my mom's real touchy, you know whatever. So I hug everybody, I touch everybody. It's my mom's fault. My mom fucking brainwashed me to like oh, we touch people when we talk.
Zach Peacock:So she leans in completely and I okay, we're hugging, so I go to give her a hug and she just like smashes her brand new tattoo into my hip groin area, like she just leans all of it in and she's just like. And then she's like next to my ear and she's just like thank you for everything so much. That was like. That couldn't have been better. I don't remember verbatim what she said, but she said some, some wild shit into my fucking ear. Okay, and we're standing right next to a desk where there's four other tattooers.
Zach Peacock:Yeah, so it wasn't like we're in my booth and we're like I'm not and I'm trying to throw it out. She, you know, like that kind of thing. I'm not trying to pick up on this bitch and wild man, what the fuck. So everybody, she's doing it in front of all the customers and she's like whispering shit in my ear where everybody else at the desk can hear it and I'm like, oh, I'm glad you liked the tattoo, Like, if it needs to touch up or whatever, hit me up like ball, that kind of thing. And then, uh, that was it. She paid, she left, never saw her again.
Brandon May:I you know, I've always been on and he tattooed this girl and she was fucking moaning like crazy too. But I didn't believe it. Just like in real sex, I don't believe it.
Zach Peacock:No, just kidding but, I didn't believe it if I had to say, if I was judging on the situation and everything like in hindsight, because I've always been most guys are pretty fucking dumb. If there's any women listening to this podcast, every one of you fuckers. If you like a guy, just fucking tell him. We're stupid dude. We don't play the sign games. If you want us to work, I'm down to work for it. I'll work for it all the time.
Zach Peacock:That's a good message too, but if you care about if you want to like, if you're trying to holler at some dude, we're not picking up on any of your fucking signs. We're dumb straight up.
Brandon May:I was explaining that on one of the previous episodes. I was like chicks, like the shiny guy, yeah, but the real ones are out doing stuff. Yeah, you gotta catch us out there already. So that's the thing.
Zach Peacock:If this girl was like moaning and putting it out there and giving me the sketchier of the two hugs and thinking that I'm going to catch on. Like I said, I had a girlfriend, I wasn't catching on at all, but like that doesn't tell me that you care about me, you like me, you want to date me, any of that kind of shit.
Zach Batista:I'm retarded.
Zach Peacock:I need you to be like in my DMS to tell me hey, motherfucker, I like you, like let's go do some shit, shit. I need you to tell me in fucking person I'm not gonna, I don't pick up on your signs and like the girls that I could like and the girls that I'm like, thinking like, oh, how the fuck do I go about this? Men are stupid. Man, if you don't tell us straight up, like you think, that there's like those memes on the internet where it's uh, it'll be like a meme where he hasn't messaged me back in two hours, he's probably thinking about some other girl. And then it cuts to like a guy doing wheelies on his motorcycle, having a good old time.
Zach Peacock:That's what the fuck we're doing. We are not thinking about other. Maybe there's like 20% of men are thinking about other women, maybe, but if you see my Instagram and I'm riding motorcycles, I'm tattooing, I'm skateboarding, I'm like an active dude. I have time for you still, I will make time for you, but I'm not thinking about some other fucking chick. Like I just told you, I just blew off some chick who's throwing it at me the whole fucking time. I'm not thinking about some other girl that doesn't. I'm not doing that. We're we're, we're stupid. You have to write the shit on a piece of paper and then I might misinterpret it that way have you ever been like girl crazy?
Zach Peacock:no, no, no, yeah he's always had that perspective, my thing, though, is uh, this sounds fucked up, but this is the reality of it. I want a girlfriend who's going to look good next to me, that's.
Brandon May:I can't be any more honest than that I mean that people will think that there's something wrong with that, but it's just choice.
Zach Peacock:I'll tell you right now your choice defends people. Fuck off you know how people go like oh, you're an ass, you're a tick guy, you're this guy, you're that guy. Before I'm interested in I can date a chick who's completely flat. I don't care about any of that kind of. I love tits. If I had, if it was like tits or ass, like I'm all tits all day, me too.
Brandon May:I enjoy some titties. Titties for sure. Yeah, holy cow If you don't have pretty eyes.
Zach Peacock:Don't fucking send me a message. I care about eyes. If you look at my track record, every girl that I've ever been with has had some fucking crazy, insane eyes. I like eyes too.
Zach Batista:I fucking love eyes of eyes. I'm eyes and teeth. Oh my god, if you guys, if you get a big grill, I'm not interested for sure, and I got a fucked up. I was the only one out there.
Zach Peacock:I got a couple. I got like that. I have like a little weird snaggle tooth and it drives me nuts. So it's like I think that's why I'm a little bit more critical. Like, yeah, whenever I see some girl like fucking veneers or whatever, like just super hyper white teeth, I'm just like why am I so attracted to this chick?
Brandon May:what the fuck? Right, right, yeah, eyes. I mean my thing is big earlobes, you know, I'm saying I get the flick in them, motherfuckers that's what's up, something to nibble on that girl.
Zach Peacock:You know, hey bitch, let me lean up into that do you have anything else for him?
Brandon May:um, no, man, I I'm trying to think of all the things that, because a lot of people don't have access to peacock, and so this might definitely be another.
Zach Batista:If he's, if he's open to it, we bring him back on.
Brandon May:Well, I feel like they're definitely going to be like. Well, he didn't ask the right questions.
Zach Peacock:Well then, down in the comments, you can ask the questions that you want me to answer next time. Yeah, if you guys have any questions.
Brandon May:Please follow up on this episode. This guy. I mean, we're trying to get as much as we can into these episodes, but there's just so much.
Zach Batista:Uh, the people we're bringing on are not just one episode type of one dimensional.
Brandon May:Yeah, um, we can sit here and talk about film. Well, I can talk.
Zach Peacock:I can talk for three hours about the motorcycle accident. Yeah. I can talk for three hours about the transplant, right, I can tell you, no like it, just those things. They're not. We were only doing this for an hour or so. You know however long this ends up being. It's not long enough and you don't want to bum people out or bore them Like maybe I'm not interesting at all, Exactly, Exactly.
Brandon May:I mean for some motherfuckers you will, for some you fucking won't. That's just how it works.
Zach Peacock:I ain't here for everybody, fuck it.
Brandon May:John Mayer doesn't get play in everybody's radio.
Zach Peacock:Boom, you definitely don't get play in mine.
Brandon May:What you listening to these days? Yeah.
Zach Peacock:It's always going to be like Southern hip hop, always Like Outkast Jeezy, like all that kind of stuff, like that is my favorite shit. But as of I mean like I fuck Guilty Pleasure, I fucking love Lady Gaga, dude, okay. I'll be banging that shit. Okay, I was screaming that shit. Yes, all my friends were not what I was expecting.
Zach Peacock:Everybody off on the session yesterday. Yeah, cause I was driving my car, cause I live in Whittier and I'm like but I'm a Riverside boy all the way and so like the quickest way I can get back to Riverside, everything will be fine. But I'm in Whittier and we usually skate in LA. La got all the spots and LA got a fucking homeless problem, so the cops don't give a fuck about skateboarding right now. So we've been getting away with a lot of shit out that way. So we're going and skating LA, san Pedro, long Beach, whatever, anywhere on that side of our like geography. We're going out that way Cause they don't give a fuck about us right now, when usually you get busted for rolling down the street on a skateboard. That's gotta be nice, though huh on a skateboard.
Brandon May:That's got to be nice, though, huh.
Zach Peacock:We get more tries for sure. Skateboarding is not a first trick thing. Some of the blessed ones it is, but not for us.
Brandon May:You know, it's interesting that the bums haven't tried to take over skate parks.
Zach Peacock:Well, you know what's crazy, dude? There's a fucking respect that goes into that shit. Like we're in the streets I got to move your crack needle so I don't hit it when I'm going off the lift lip of the edge of this curb to hit this rail or whatever the fuck. I'm skating and like I'm not fucking with them. They're not fucking with us.
Zach Batista:There's a respect.
Zach Peacock:Thankfully we're not getting robbed by homeless people and because we're willing to fight too, that's. The other thing is like I got a weapon, I will hit you with this fucking. You think I'm not willing to go take my camera. I'm gonna fuck you up. That's straight up, right. So I think they know. Maybe a couple homeless people got beat up, or they just know that, like we come from the same fucking place as you dude, I'm focused.
Brandon May:You fuck around with a skateboard, it's only a matter of time till.
Zach Peacock:You get it, but even not even talking about the shitty side of that, like if you fuck with me, I'm gonna beat your ass. The side of it that I'm talking about is just like you're on a hard trip right now. I'm right next to you, I'm not fucking with you, you're not fucking with me. There's like this unspoken respect and it's like maybe this dude is homeless because he came from a fucked up upbringing. I didn't come up from any better of an upbringing. I just have like a slightly more drive to keep me from being homeless. So it's not that there's like a real thing like homeless people don't fuck with skateboarders for the most part Do you consider yourself a positive person?
Zach Peacock:I'd like to think so, but I don't think I come off as positive at all.
Brandon May:Right, right, right. I was just leading into that, just so you guys know I'm trying to bring. We are trying to bring people that we think are cool you know what I mean and have our living life in the right fashion. That's 100% the reason we brought Peacock today. You don't necessarily have to be some cookie cutter motherfucker to enjoy life, man. You don't have to be Mr.
Brandon May:Soft-ass, fucking Mr Nice, to everybody all the time. You can make mistakes, you can get fucking knocked off your bike and get back up and fucking continue life in the fashion that you want to. It doesn't even have to take that fucking long. It's just a, it's a choice in, uh you know, maintaining uh, uh a value within your life and keeping your, your soil rich, Zach what would you say to people that look up to you, that think you're motivational?
Zach Peacock:I don't know. Ask me a question, I'll I'll tell you the answer. I don't know. Ask me a question, I'll tell you the answer. I don't know. Yeah, just, uh, just ask. Yeah, yeah, don't like, don't be afraid to fail, just keep doing it, find things that drive you and get in the driver's seat.
Zach Batista:Fuck yeah, might've I throw a quote at you. No, let me see what you think. This is get in the driver's seat. Fuck yeah, might have a throw a quote at you. No, let me see what you think. So this is a Apollo Coilo, he said. I believe enlightenment or revelation comes in daily life. I look for joy, the piece of action. You need action. I'd have stopped writing years ago if it were for the money. I thought that was perfect. As as especially as it went on.
Zach Peacock:That's perfect. Well, that ties into skateboarding. Yeah, exactly.
Zach Batista:Yeah, Because it's like.
Zach Peacock:I didn't get into skateboarding for the money, the fame, any of that shit. From the time that I got into skateboarding that wasn't there. You did it because you wanted to do it. So, yeah, I agree with that wholeheartedly for sure, because now you can get into, like there's I tattoo a lot of teachers and the teachers are telling me that the kids don't want to pay attention because they're like, well, I'm just going to be a youtuber when I grow up. I'm just going to be a fucking pro skateboarder when I grow up and you're like that's a one percent of people that that actually fucking works for if you're willing to put that much, I don't think people understand how much fucking effort goes into that stuff. Yeah, and time and all that. I got to the point that I'm at because I just gave. I cared about the shit that I was interested in and it just so.
Brandon May:Vision, yeah, relentless fucking pursuit.
Zach Batista:That don't like no he's not fucking going half-hearted at all at anything he's doing, just because some may fall less on the priority list.
Brandon May:No, I'm not money driven at all. That he's doing Just because some may fall less on the priority list doesn't mean that he's approaching them with any less vigor and living life till it's fucking fullest.
Zach Peacock:Like I say, I'll skate till I can't walk. That's the quote of my life. But if I ever woke up and skateboarding just wasn't fun or it just got fucking boring or whatever like stepping on the skateboard didn't give me that endorphin release that I that I get I'd stop fucking doing it. I'm not I'm not.
Zach Batista:Yeah, that'd be the day.
Zach Peacock:I'm not so tied into this shit at all. I'm doing this because I want to fucking do this. I want to maintain a level of physique, I want to maintain a level of trick selection, like, like, I want, I want this shit yeah, he used to fucking.
Brandon May:I used to struggle working here. You know what I mean. Me and brian used to butt heads. We used to have our differences. It was a different time. We were different people at that time and peacock would be like he would look at me the shitty fucking look. If you fucking hate it so much, why don't you just fucking leave?
Brandon May:I tell everybody why don't you just fucking leave? I tell everybody, why don't you just? It's your fucking choice. He's like I wouldn't fucking show up for this shit if I was you, if I felt this way, yeah, yeah.
Zach Peacock:If I got tired of tattooing tomorrow. I love all my customers, but if I was over tattooing tomorrow, I'd go be a fucking filmmaker if filming was more important. I've never said no to anything. I've always like I've like. If it's like some suspect shit, then I'm like, ah, I might push it out a little bit. But even when you asked me about this I was like, well fuck, I've never been interviewed on a podcast. Let's go fucking interview Right, try it out.
Zach Batista:This might be my favorite shit to do to talk to people, and I would have never fucking known that if I. That's what we're finding out too, that we do like this and no one's told to stop yet.
Zach Peacock:That's why we keep going, and if they do tell you to stop, fuck them. Yeah, we do have that. Fuck them back too. That's what it's like. Like I said, it's skateboarding. I'm not doing this shit because I'm interested in what anybody else thinks, like we're negative, shitty people, Like poor ghetto kids. Because skateboarding is obtainable. You can get this thing from your friend. All your friends can take all the parts of their boards and give you a loaner shitty ass board.
Zach Peacock:Like it's the poor kids thing to do is skateboarding. Like if you snow, like John Cardiel said, like if you you have to be of means to get up on, like you have to have. Like to be a snowboarder, you have to have a car that can get you up the hill. You have to put gas in the car. You have to have all the gear to keep you dry and comfortable. You have to have, you have to buy the snowboard. You have to buy the boots, you have to buy the lift ticket.
Zach Batista:There's all these fucking A super expensive hobby.
Zach Peacock:Yeah, there's all these like then you can go in your front yard.
Brandon May:Right, you don't need shit. I got one of his skateboards.
Zach Peacock:Right now I'm riding one of his old decks and shit Well it's the same thing when you were telling me when Miles was all getting into it. It's like I went out and bought him a fucking complete Yep.
Brandon May:He still got it. You feel me.
Zach Peacock:Because I wanted like, if you're showing any interest at all know what skateboarding did for me. So I'm gonna turn that shit around all the kids at the skate park. One of our closest friends is. He's like 21 years old. This dude garza doesn't even have his paperwork. He's illegal, like a legal hispanic kid does. Anytime I see a pair of shoes that are size nine, I just buy the shoes because I know he's fucking ripping. He's an amazing skateboarder and it's like if I keep giving him a pair of shoes, then that's another month that he gets to skateboard.
Brandon May:That's big homie shit too.
Zach Peacock:It's just because I know he is fucking amazing and he loves the shit and I see myself in him and it's like if somebody was doing that for me then I'd push 10 times harder.
Brandon May:That's what I was going to ask. There was nobody in your world that was big homie.
Zach Peacock:No, my buddy, aaron, aaron Crowick, that dude. If it wasn't for Aaron, I started skating for SRH clothing, supporting Radical Habits. I started skating for SRH clothing because that was Aaron's favorite company, oh okay, and because I couldn't give him money for him to drive us around. He just did it. He was just like the good dude. He was the older guy, he had his shit together, he had a job, he had a car, his parents he had like loving parents that were down to support him for whatever the fuck he wanted to do. They give him the gas card when gas was 90 cents a gallon, you know, like right. And then they just be like yeah, fill the van up. His parents have this minivan, and then we take the minivan, we go skate all over southern california and then we bring the car back stinking like sweat, fucking tires, bald, empty gas tank. They didn't give a fuck. They're like oh, whatever. If it wasn't for Aaron and his parents, I would not be at the level that I am at skateboarding and the love that I have for skateboarding. I probably still love skateboarding, but, as Aaron Kroc, if it wasn't for that dude, I wouldn't have shit like skateboarding wise Because that dude, like he wasn't driving us around so I could be the best skateboarder in the group.
Zach Peacock:He was driving us around because it was what we did on the weekends. Like we all hopped in that stinky ass, astro van, and whipped that shit all fucking. We stayed at his house. We ate all the food in his fridge because I didn't have no fucking food. Pissed his parents off Sure, probably like pissed the bed or did some wild shit you know like didn't stunk up everything. I didn't know any better when the skate videos would come out. He had a job, he'd buy the skate videos. We'd go to his house. We'd have like a little premiere get together. So when I was of, when I was capable to get sponsored as skateboarding, I went in. The first company I sent a sponsor me tape into was srh was because I was going to pay this. I was like I can't give this dude money. I can't do anything for this dude that he doesn't already have, but I can fill his closet with shit that he loves.
Brandon May:And so that's what I did.
Zach Peacock:And I didn't have a car to get down to. They were in Vista. They'd send me stuff to the house, but if I went down to the warehouse they'd let me, they'd give me a big ass, the biggest box you can get from Amazon. I mean now it's Amazon, but back then it was just so people have like some context. It was massive cardboard box and I go to the warehouse and they tell me, whatever you can put in this thing you can take home. Oh shit. So I'd fill this thing with thousands of dollars of clothing and I'd bring him. And then I just like he was, I just this is my ride, I'd kind of play it off like that so they wouldn't think nothing. And then I'd just be like don't the fucking box. I'd be like what do you?
Zach Peacock:want Grab whatever the fuck you want, throw it in the box.
Zach Batista:I'll just say it's for me.
Brandon May:I did that for years.
Zach Peacock:There was no website to look at, to pick at. I'd just be like they'd send me shit. I'd be like yeah. I wore a medium this month I'm changing my shit up.
Brandon May:That's like the dream. And then I give it to Aaron right as a skateboarder, to get sponsored and just Pillage, dude. Yeah, that's tight.
Zach Peacock:Any other last minute shout outs no, I mean, I'm just thankful for everything. Yeah, everybody in my life. You fuckers know who you are. Yeah, yeah.
Brandon May:And I'm thankful for you giving this interview. I really appreciate it. This is one more chapter in our relationship as friends. You know me, man, I'm always going to have some new on the horizon and we're gonna keep pushing for all the wild shit in your life. I've been, I've gotten the phone call and I've answered the phone every fucking time he's called me definitely a resource that I'll tap into when I'm absolutely ready to lose my shit, and you know he'd be coming sometimes.
Zach Peacock:It's good sometimes it's not always the answer you want, but it might be the answer you need to hear.
Brandon May:I got to be prepared to call Peacock on the phone because he's going to be. It's not always in my favor. I'm a dick man and I might, I might. You might be like on the.
Zach Peacock:I've had plenty of friends call me when there's when they're on the edge of like being suicidal and shit, and I'm just like don't be a fucking bitch, don't do it Right, let's go skate, let's go fuck off, let's go do it. Like I'll come pick you up, we'll go do some shit, but that's what they needed, like four or five friends, and one of the friends that called me all the fucking time. The time he didn't call me, he killed himself.
Brandon May:Damn.
Zach Peacock:That's just how it is Like I was able, Except for the time that he didn't call me. He didn't reach out. Yeah, I didn't call, I couldn't.
Brandon May:You better, man, be careful in these streets. I see you out there in Whittier dipping around like it's, you know, corona, or?
Zach Peacock:some shit. I'm living my life. I don't ride motorcycles because they're safe. I don't ride skateboards because they're safe. I don't run my fucking mouth because it's safe.
Brandon May:Yeah, be careful out there.
Zach Batista:I appreciate you two coming on the show, of course.
Zach Peacock:It's fun man. Thank you so much, brother. There'll be more. Thank you.
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