Join us on a captivating journey with the remarkable Zach Peacock, as we celebrate the multifaceted life of a man who's not just a master of the half-pipe but also a maestro with the tattoo gun and a visionary behind the camera. In an enlightening chat, we uncover the true essence of what it means to be a professional skateboarder—beyond the sponsorships and industry accolades. Zach opens up about his personal health battles and the indomitable spirit that led him to not only survive but thrive, setting a powerful example of resilience.
We take a sentimental ride through the evolution of skateboarding culture, revisiting the raw days of the '80s and '90s and marveling at its growth into a career that teaches nothing less than sheer perseverance. The conversation takes an unexpected, yet refreshing turn as we draw parallels between the zen of skateboarding and the clarity brought forth by meditation. Meanwhile, revving into another gear of our discourse, we share a mutual enthusiasm for the dusty trails and the craft of motorcycle customization—an ode to the trials and artistry that shape our lives.
Strap in for a heart-to-heart as Zach and I explore the tender complexities of human emotions, from our expressions of affection to the way we tackle change. We delve into personal growth narratives that highlight the significance of embracing new experiences and the courage it takes to alter life's engrained patterns. Zach's inspiring story is a celebration of living life with authenticity and passion, a tale that resonates with anyone who's ever dared to skate against the grain.
Join us on a captivating journey with the remarkable Zach Peacock, as we celebrate the multifaceted life of a man who's not just a master of the half-pipe but also a maestro with the tattoo gun and a visionary behind the camera. In an enlightening chat, we uncover the true essence of what it means to be a professional skateboarder—beyond the sponsorships and industry accolades. Zach opens up about his personal health battles and the indomitable spirit that led him to not only survive but thrive, setting a powerful example of resilience.
We take a sentimental ride through the evolution of skateboarding culture, revisiting the raw days of the '80s and '90s and marveling at its growth into a career that teaches nothing less than sheer perseverance. The conversation takes an unexpected, yet refreshing turn as we draw parallels between the zen of skateboarding and the clarity brought forth by meditation. Meanwhile, revving into another gear of our discourse, we share a mutual enthusiasm for the dusty trails and the craft of motorcycle customization—an ode to the trials and artistry that shape our lives.
Strap in for a heart-to-heart as Zach and I explore the tender complexities of human emotions, from our expressions of affection to the way we tackle change. We delve into personal growth narratives that highlight the significance of embracing new experiences and the courage it takes to alter life's engrained patterns. Zach's inspiring story is a celebration of living life with authenticity and passion, a tale that resonates with anyone who's ever dared to skate against the grain.
Hello, hello, hello. This is Zach Batista with B2Z Podcast. I'm here with my co-host, Brandon May. Good morning. Good morning everybody, and a very special guest, Zach Peacock.
Brandon May:Yeah, I'm excited about this one. I told you guys I would bring some cool people on. This is definitely one of those ones that you guys should tap into and watch over and over and over again. This is my buddy. I don't know what to call him, but first we're going to call him a living legend. A living legend. A living legend. This is one of those guys that in the streets you can't really get many trophies, but this guy's got a lot of acclaim out there. Everybody knows him around this city Zach Peacock man, professional skateboarder, tattoo artist, cinematographer and just a good dude man. I've tattooed with Zach for several years at Elizabeth Street and we've had many, many good experiences, and sometimes bad too, so I'm excited to bring him here for you guys today. I didn't even think he was going to say yes to the interview, so that's exciting for me.
Zach Batista:You were a question mark on our list for a minute. I'm glad you said yes too.
Brandon May:Well, I had to yeah. So yeah, let's dive straight into it, man, yeah, baby.
Zach Peacock:Professional. There's a big question mark next to professional skateboarder because it's maybe at some point, but now it's just a labor of love, We'll say that.
Brandon May:You know, I consider a professional skateboarder is somebody who could do the trick when they need to do it yeah you know it's without the claim. You know what I mean. If you, if I was like all right man do uh kickflip yeah do a kickflip
Brandon May:real quick yeah like you could do that yeah, but that's more consistency than anything else. Yeah. Yeah, you know, but on my scale that's professional, because in our job, you know what I mean Consistency and being able to pull that trick out when you need it. Yeah, you know what I mean. It's like all right, I got to have a big bag of tricks. Yeah, if I'm not, then I'm not a professional.
Zach Peacock:You're a professional I agree with. Don't, don't fucking deny that. Well, you've been sponsored before. Yeah, I got paid to skate, sponsored of all of it. Right, that's perfect. I think I qualify as a professional in the skate community. Being professional is your name on a board and a shoe, that's professional gotcha and I didn't ever have that.
Zach Peacock:So I'm just and like there was never. Like I'm not saying you need the party, but you'll get like a pro party and there's like a whole like hey, you're pro now and like you had to be amateur, amateur skateboarder for x amount of years. That's a whole, nother part of it, and that there was just skating, getting free product, getting paid from a couple of the companies and there was those pieces to it. But it's, there's definitely like a. It's like in tattooing. You go through the apprenticeship and and then when you get there, then when the person in person, you feel like you're at that level, then you can go to the next step. And I was in the first. I was, I wasn't an apprentice, but I wasn't a pro.
Brandon May:We'll just say that one of the reasons I wanted to bring you on is because of your lifestyle. This is a lifestyle episode for me and I believe you live life to its fullest. You know you've dealt with a lot of adversity, sickness, traumatic events within your life and I just wanted to kind of touch on those things. You know, I know a few years back you caught an illness. Can you go ahead and bring us in on that real quick?
Zach Peacock:Yeah. So I mean, it all kind of depends on how far back you want to go, because and my like I was born with underdeveloped lungs. And then, past that, it's like in my late no, like early teen years I might have been like anywhere from 11 to 14 I had orchio pexy, and orchio pexy is a vein that doesn't. It's kind of tied in a knot in one of your testicles, and so I would get these crazy stomach pains and I didn't know what it was from. And then finally, we go to the doctor and they're just like oh, you have this issue. They did an ultrasound on them and then almost lost one of them and then they were able to cut it open, straighten the vein out. However that I don't know what the surgery, but whatever they did, they did.
Zach Peacock:I was young, sorted that out, and then from there it was uh, I had scoliosis most of my life. I still do. I sit like an idiot. And then on top of that, it was the um. I was born with cirrhosis and never drank alcohol, never done anything, smoked weed in junior high, but that was pretty much it. And then so my whole life I felt like I had like somewhere, anywhere from like two to four hours of sleep, like that's the best way I could describe it, because people are like what does it feel? Like being bored, like having cirrhosis, and so how I would describe it would be just, you always feel tired and like it didn't matter how good the food I ate or how much slept. How much I slept it didn't matter at all, it was. I always felt burnt out and Brandon, we worked together during all of that. Yeah.
Zach Peacock:And we didn't? I, during all of that, yeah, and we didn't, I didn't know. And so I brandon can contest to this. I was on edge all the time. Oh yeah, he was he would.
Brandon May:He would come in and you know, we would kind of arrive at the same time. He's very routine heavy, yeah, and I'm routine heavy as well, so we would kind of arrive at maybe eight, nine o'clock yeah, I usually get around eight. You know he'd be cooking a fucking bagel and shit like that. I'd be over over here you know, cleaning up or doing what I do, and I would kind of look over in his booth and be like hey what's up, and sometimes I wouldn't get a response.
Brandon May:You know what I mean. He'd just be like all right, this motherfucker, I ain't fucking with cats today.
Zach Peacock:It was funny because Brandon would be like how the fuck you think I'm doing Like I'm fucking dying? But at the time I didn't know what was wrong. Yeah. And I'm just like stone face, just ignorant, super, super shitty.
Brandon May:Yeah, and I'm a positive person. So you know, I'm like, all right, let me pick spirits up and it just. You know what I mean. I guess that helped out as well too, because that's one of the things that I think I'm trying to implant and implement for today's episode is, this guy is so routine, heavy that it uh, it establishes a good future for his later, later life, and I think that's a testament to how he's living life. You know what I mean, because he's a regimented individual. He um, that's what keeps going the moment.
Brandon May:Yeah, he doesn't waste fucking time. You know what I mean. Like he's always fucking doing something, even with going through. Like he got hit by a fucking semi on a harley and that was that predated the liver transplant.
Zach Peacock:The liver transplant was in 2020, and then I was diagnosed with cirrhosis. Like late, like I don't know. It was like 2016, 2017, 2018. Somewhere around there I got diagnosed with the cirrhosis. And then I got on the transplant list and then I got the transplant. I got the call in 2020 for the transplant and so that was that whole thing.
Brandon May:But in December 20th and I got, the call in 2020 for the transplant, and so that was that whole thing. But in 20, december 20th, and you went through the transplant.
Zach Peacock:Yeah, I went through that and everything but December 28th, uh 2013,. That's when I got hit by the semi truck. And that's that's what like. Yeah, On my motorcycle yeah.
Brandon May:And I didn't know him at that time, but I had heard about it through another shot and that's how I knew it was bad. You know, when you hear about it from another shot, you're like oh yeah, like yeah he almost yeah, he's, he's probably gonna die or some shit, like you know, yeah and but the the crazy it, you know, it's not the fact that, oh, he made it through all this shit. The dope part about it is he was like back to what he was doing immediately. Yeah.
Zach Peacock:You know, months later.
Brandon May:Yeah, as soon as he was capable, he was back skateboarding.
Zach Peacock:After the motorcycle accident I had, because of all the surgeries and everything, I had no feeling in my hand at all, and I'm left-handed Shit.
Zach Peacock:So I was like every day I was like I got like a two pound, like weighted, like sand ball, and I would squeeze it every day and I still had no feeling in my hand.
Zach Peacock:And so for six months I like couldn't feel anything, I could touch nothing, didn't have any sensation at all. And so once I had the strength to come back to tattooing, like I was in a wheelchair for like a month, a month and a half, and then I went to a walker and then after the walker, I was on a cane. And when I was on the cane, then I finally came back to the tattoo shop and tried to tattoo. And so at that point I was like, but I was still trying to draw, but I couldn't feel the paper that my hand was resting on. I couldn't feel anything. And so once I got back to tattooing, then it was a matter of and there would be nothing there and I was like, oh cool, I gotta go deeper, yeah yeah because the sensation like tattooing is such a touch feel thing and when that's not there it's like but.
Zach Peacock:But I was able to come back to tattooing and tattoo even though I couldn't feel what I was doing yeah and then eventually, thank god, the nerves somehow came back. Maybe because I was using it all the time, but because it came back, I was like now I don't, there's no numbness or anything in my hand.
Brandon May:You know there's that meme where it's like stop being a bitch.
Zach Peacock:You know what I mean.
Brandon May:Yeah, yeah, yeah. He makes me feel like that, like as far as what the body is capable of enduring, and you know, rebuilding it, go ahead of enduring and, you know, rebuilding it Go ahead.
Zach Batista:But I got to ask why tattoo? Why that push to get back into tattooing?
Zach Peacock:Everything comes from skateboarding. For me, how Brandon was touching on like the drive and like not giving up and all like that, it's skateboarding.
Zach Batista:Okay.
Zach Peacock:From an early, early age my dad skated. I got baby pictures on a skateboard. There's all these like it's from the. From birth it was ingrained in me the skating. And when you and I was born in 85. So skating in the late eighties through the early nineties and all like that you don't there was no money in it for somebody like myself like that's getting into skating around that time. The only reason why I say that is because you could be a teenager right now, in 2024, and you could be your. Your immediate could be like I want to be a pro skateboarder and that's a realistic goal. As to when in the early 90s you'd be like you tell your parents I want to be a pro skateboarder, they'd be like get a fucking job absolutely so that's what I'm trying to like get at.
Zach Peacock:it's like in the 90s. It wasn't a career path at all, so I was just skating because I truly love this shit, and there's nobody who fails more in life than somebody who's participating in some kind of like extreme activity like skateboarding, bmx, motocross, inline skates, like what. From my time, like the early 90s, late 80s, and all that stuff, it was, that's just what we did. We were outside, kid turnkey kids, you know, we just we played outside, we did everything outside. There's no cell phones just before the birth of the internet and with all that, you learn the failure, you're learning failure and nobody learns skateboarding right away. Everything takes 50 fucking tries if you're lucky. Usually it takes hours and then when you get it, you get that mild sense of gratitude literally like for a second.
Zach Batista:Yeah, and you're like, let's do it again.
Zach Peacock:Yeah I'm getting like three seconds of gratitude and then I'm like, okay, cool, let's try.
Zach Peacock:And do it again, and then you then another four hours and then you're not getting it again. Yeah, so it's that it's ingrained in you from a young age as a skateboarder that, like, failure is a part of life and it's you're're not changing that. And so I took that bit of the skateboarder mentality and I applied it to everything in my life. So I learned this later on in life that I was applying it to everything and it was because of skateboarding. But subconsciously, that's just in my psyche how it happened. I didn't know until years later that I was like, oh, it's because of skateboarding that I'm willing to fail. If I did like when my first couple years of tattooing I do a bad tattoo and I'm like, well sick, let's try and get, let's do it better. And then, like, when you do it better, you're still like I just never satisfied is skateboarding your mental release yeah, skateboarding is everything.
Zach Peacock:That's that. Like I didn't knowing brian foster and like him owning elizabeth street and me he's been really big on like the Buddha and all that, like that mentality. I don't know if he's an active practicing type, but I know he that if he was going to pick a spirituality it would go towards that and hearing him talk about those kinds of like those practices and everything. And then Dave Keneally, a close friend of him, was an actual Buddhist monk and he started studying under like some super famous monk guy and uh, just them explaining the philosophies of like buddhism and everything it explained. Like I started to understand because, like, I think, like when everybody's like, oh, I need to meditate, I'm like what kind of kook yoga shit are you on, dude?
Zach Peacock:yeah yeah, like I like I don't want nothing to do with that fucking hokey bullshit. I don't want not, dude. Like I was just super punk rock, super hateful, like against all of that shit. I was like take your bullshit and take it somewhere else. So that was uh. So then, getting older and being a little bit more open to like hearing other people's like points of views and everything, then hearing these people that I care about talk about buddhism and everything, and then they explain meditation and all like that, I'm like, oh shit, that's skateboarding. Like, if you go to the skate park and you have some bullshit on your brain or you're thinking about something like that, or you're thinking about your girlfriend, you're thinking about some fight, you have one of your friends or whatever, you're going to have the worst session of your life at the skate park. So you have to go to the skate park and you have to fucking turn off. And what off? And what is that? Turning everything off?
Brandon May:that's meditation, absolutely and it's simple as form, so I don't want to chalk it up to some kook shit. He said he don't want to give it his his credit.
Zach Peacock:But I see you. But if it wasn't for skateboarding, I wouldn't there's something there, it's there that's it. Just leave it at that.
Brandon May:Yeah, there's something there yeah, nah, I mean, I've never thought about that until we've had these conversations. A lot of these conversations are new to me as well, even though I've worked with him for years. He's not somebody who's just accessible like that. He has to decide to do one of these things and obviously he's changed over the years to even fucking be talking about this type of shit.
Brandon May:So that's dope and kudos to you. Where was I at Skateboarding? To you, um, where was I at, uh, skateboarding? Yeah, I was kind of wondering your outlook on life. Yeah, you're motivated and stuff like that. But why? Why haven't you just been like fuck it? And been like fuck it guys? You know what I? Because you've been dealing with a whole bunch of fucked up shit since I've known you. Yeah.
Brandon May:And what keeps you from just saying fuck it? Yes, you have a skater mentality, yeah, but what in your head, I guess, I'm wondering? Are you telling yourself, when you're going through these situations, to get back?
Zach Peacock:Again. I was raised in my mom went to BYU. She was super religious and she never forced religion on us. She's not Mormon, I'd say she's more Christian than anything. But when she was younger she went to BYU because of a close friend of hers and so just religion was always present in the household. My dad wasn't around at all ever, not even a little bit.
Zach Peacock:So everything that I say from here on out is because of my mom. That's just what it is. So when I talk about parents or family or any of that stuff, it's just I'm talking about my mom. I'm not talking about my dad at all, about any of this. He is that my mom posted him as like a uh, like this, cause she knows that every male needs that like male figure in their life, and so when I was real, real, real young, she'd always be like, oh, your dad, like she portrayed him as like this great person.
Zach Peacock:And I got into skateboarding and I got into motorcycles because of this image that my mom painted of my dad and so like, kind of like being hyped on this false image of my dad. And then I got older and I realized how my dad really was and it was just like okay, cool, and it kind of it fucked me up for a long time because I uh, I didn't, I don't want to be anything like my dad at all because of the choices he's made in life, but I, I love my mom, had to be both parents and so the fake part of my dad that she made up that was still coming from my mom. So it's like I got the parenting both the mother and the father from that and I was raised partially by my mom's dad, my grandpa, so I got that in me too and that was like World War II Navy. There was no bullshit in that guy and so any bit of structure that I did have was because of him and I got to see what a real man was like in that sense. But a little sidetrack. But suicide and all that kind of none of that stuff is an option. Because I was raised religious. I wasn't a practicing religion, but my mom she never pushed it but she'd always be like hey, if you go to church, if you see these things, it helps you in the long run. Like just to understand that there is a moral compass that just don't be a piece of shit Ultimate, like to sum it up, that's what it is.
Zach Peacock:And because I think like some underlining thing, like because I went to church and I realized that there's, like because at any point you can just kill yourself, you're like I don't have to deal with the struggle anymore, like that's the easiest. I see it. I know a lot of people don't see like that, but I think suicide is the easy way out. I have close, close childhood friends that have killed themselves and I'm a little spiteful. I'm like that was, you took the bitch. Like there's no other way for me to say it, and I know not everybody feels that way about it, but that's how I feel about it. I'm like you fucked up, you didn't want to keep fighting, you didn't want to fucking fight for what you believed in. Like that's a bitch move, it's the easy way out. I'm sure it's not easy to fucking hang yourself from the rafters or put a fucking double barrel shotgun in your mouth and actually pull the trigger, but I think religion is the base of why all that shit.
Zach Peacock:And then as I, got older it was like, why not? And I think having that base of religion is it's like me believing that everything kind of happens for a reason and just wanting to see what the next step is. And it's interesting, and skateboarding has given me all. It's been fun, like I've got to travel, I've got to do this because of skateboarding. So I'm like and then when I got into motorcycles I got a whole different group of friends and then now we can travel farther because we have these machines to take us there and all these different things.
Zach Peacock:And then I get into photography and videography and all that. And now I'm meeting a different group of people and so all this shit is just like one next step over to the next thing. And it's like every piece of everything that I've been a part of in my life has showed me the next step. So for me there's, there's. It's just like why not? Like there's, I don't have a, there's no real reason, but I think it's. I think religion is the base, but then on top of that it's just like fuck man, just keep going like I'm just curious.
Zach Peacock:Like my grandma always, always said she goes, you can kill yourself and then the next day win the lottery, so that that that's something to live for. Yeah, that's. And anytime I think about suicide, I think about that I'm just like and I've never, never been one to be I'm going to kill myself. Never thought thoughts, never even gone through my mind. But it's just that thought of my grandma saying that I'm just like, I don't even play the lottery, so there's no way I'm going to win the fucking lottery.
Zach Peacock:But it's that thing Like you could kill yourself and then the next day you win the lottery. So it's just that the unknowing is what's interesting. My life has been so fucking colorful in 38 years.
Brandon May:Right, it's been good Like, and do you think going through the things that you've gone through makes you go harder at life?
Zach Peacock:Yeah, yeah, yeah. You push because you, like I write. Motorcycles are dangerous, skateboarding is dangerous. I hear about people all the time like stepping on a skateboard for the first time and they roll into a bowl and they hit their head. Then they're in a coma in the hospital for a couple of months and then they, then they, they pull the plug and they're dead. Right. To me. I'm like, that doesn't even like. I can't even fucking fathom that.
Brandon May:Cause it's like I've been skateboarding for so long that it's just I'm like I ride, I have a one wheel.
Zach Peacock:Last time you smacked your shit, like a month ago, yeah, like hard too. Like I'm just like I wake up and I'm just I don't even remember you got rocked. Yeah, I don't remember trying the trick. I was just like, oh fuck, like I'm waking up on the ground, I'm holding my head. I'm like, oh shit, this is terrible. Yeah, but it doesn't, I don't think. Then I got back on the board and I tried it again. Like my brain, I don't know, maybe I'm a little slow like my brain's broken dude, I'm willing to keep going that perseverance, man, to want something.
Brandon May:You know, yeah, that perseverance to want something is huge. You've always been that way. You go back to motorcycles. This dude has had what since I've known him maybe it's in the 40s yeah, 40 different motorcycles and rebuilt them, customize them to his own, you know.
Zach Batista:So he's raffled off some yeah, I always saw a new one outside the show. Every time I came here for a corner with brandon I was like who's motorcycles?
Speaker 3:they were probably mine. Yeah, that's a passion we both share.
Brandon May:He knows I love motorcycles. That's like one of my first loves out there. You know, I guess any kid born in the 80s, you know, growing up in the 90s, had a love for bmx and yeah and motocross and stuff like that.
Zach Peacock:Well, southern california where we live. Yeah, and like the ghetto or parts of southern california, like riverside county and everything it's. It's fucking dirt right. So it's like the ghetto or parts of Southern California, like Riverside County and everything it's fucking dirt Right.
Zach Peacock:So it's like the street that I grew up on was a shitty paved asphalt street that I couldn't roll on a skateboard on. So then I go grab the bike. I can make dirt jumps in front of my house, but I can't ride the thing that I love to do in front of my house.
Zach Peacock:Right, I had to have a homeboy pick me up or skate long distances, hop on the bus and take that to get somewhere to go skate and do the thing that I want to do. So it's like shit. Yeah, like we all jump on bikes and then, like the natural progression of riding, bmx is motocross or motorcycles.
Brandon May:You think growing up as a skateboarder has made you tougher?
Zach Peacock:Yeah, Like I'm more whenever I see somebody fall, like the thing that blows my mind when somebody doesn't know how to fall, Like I watch these memes on YouTube and Instagram and shit like that and somebody's stumbling like somebody barely pushed them, they stumble and fall. I'm like how the fuck do you fall? Like?
Brandon May:that.
Zach Peacock:Yeah, that's crazy to me.
Brandon May:Yeah, they snap their knee. By taking a step, you step off the curb and you break your fucking ankle.
Zach Peacock:I'm like that's mental dude. That doesn't even compute.
Brandon May:Yeah, what was that Kid Cudi jumped off the stage at Coachella. Yeah, yeah, real lightly Damn near, broke all his shit.
Zach Peacock:Yeah, good, fuck him. He should learn how to like fall the right way.
Brandon May:Right, right Don't be jumping off shit.
Zach Peacock:dude, I don't care how psyched you were and how much adrenaline you had.
Brandon May:You weren't built for that right. No, that's right. Put that shit down. I want to talk about some of your, your side projects. We've always had this big debate about how oh you know, hey, zach you're. I used to tell him oh, you're a fucking artist, yeah you're exactly.
Zach Peacock:You're a fucking artist I fucking hate that word. You don't like that I hate, the word.
Zach Batista:I saw your face immediately it was he he shoots everything you know he shoots well.
Brandon May:No, he not. He doesn't shoot everything, but he shoots very well, um, at what he's shooting at. You know, he's he's very particular. So he doesn't shoot everything and he's got a very specific style to his. His, uh, it's almost like cold world, urban, with a little bit of modern to it. It's fucking, it's cool he you guys got to check out his photography, his film work, um well, the thing with that is I love fashion yeah even though I don't look like it.
Zach Peacock:I love fashion and I love architecture. Yeah, so those two, that's kind of what got me into the style of tattooing that I like to do, all the geometric shit. Yeah, because I like symmetry, I like everything that like turn of the century, like that 70s architecture. I mean, if you don't like that, your brain's broke. There's something about that shit, like when you're driving through Palm Springs and every fucking house is so different, so character. There's so much shit going on in there. There's so much shit going on in there and all like like I wish palm springs wasn't so hot, because I'd live there.
Brandon May:I don't fuck with the heat at all. What's one thing that you're always going to stop and shoot as a photographer?
Zach Peacock:for me over the years it's been the the weird shit. Like I like textures, I like weird abstract, like I've gotten way more into like macro or it's funny because these two things don't kind of go together but it's's like the the weird, like landscapes of the world from a drone's perspective, like I love like the drone photography, because the world looks like something weird and abstract, like city lines and streets and everything like even though it's this big, you're seeing all this shit. It still looks weird and abstract. But then, like I'll get my camera and get a macro lens out and then I'll shoot like the pores in my hand and it's like super crazy close and detail and it just looks weird, like if you can't tell when you look at the picture and you can't tell what it is, I'm like I succeeded that's like for me.
Brandon May:Do you look at those projects like building a bike or you know?
Zach Peacock:it's, it's hunting I think, of it as like hunting, like I'm like and I don't ever. I try everything in life. If you go looking for it, you're gonna find it, and that's can be a good and a bad thing. For me it's usually been bad. I try not to ever go out with an agenda. I just go out and try to get what I can get. It's like even relationships. Anytime I've like pursued a woman, it's bit me in the ass. It's like don't go, fucking don't pursue. Like for me I'm like don't go looking for anything because you usually find it there could be some solid advice right there.
Zach Batista:Yeah, yeah, I like that. Yeah, that's, I'll flag that one.
Zach Peacock:Yeah, dude that's just how I've always felt, is like I want it when I go out and shoot and stuff like like it's not like, but that's skateboarding is like we're pacing this landscape, whether it's a city or a skate park or whatever. Like you're just cruising around, you're evaluating and you're like, oh sick, that'd be sick to shoot. Like the other day I went down to downtown LA. I wanted to shoot through those towers that are all graphed up right now.
Brandon May:But I saw that. Hold on a little bit.
Zach Peacock:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I saw that you got that drone up with all the helicopters and all that going around, so I had up to 400 feet. Yeah.
Zach Peacock:And if I'm flying over 400 feet, which I'm always flying over 400- feet on a skateboard.
Speaker 3:Fuck you, I'm going to do it my way. Lock you down, yeah.
Zach Peacock:Yeah, they don't fuck around the airspace, but they had. It was a Lakers game that night too. I didn't know that Ah. So, they were patrolling the landscape, for that they weren't pat that building. There is a cop car on every corner of that building, so they're not fucking around like they're trying to. Building is dope, building is so dope, dude they need to let people talking about the the graffiti.
Zach Batista:Yeah, I saw, I saw that.
Brandon May:I saw that guy lost funding for it and it's just been sitting guys a sketchy.
Zach Peacock:Like they're the money's, like that's a money laundering thing so that's why that's why the building is like is still open, vacant, like that. Actually, every time somebody gets caught, they take them to jail and then they call the guy who owns it or like however that works, and then that guy is like oh, don't press charges, because they don't want him looking into his shit, just exonerates him yeah yeah, that's why there was dudes flying over here like that.
Zach Peacock:some of the dudes that are hitting that building are from europe and from fucking Asia and that kind of shit. People are flying in to hit that building because they know they can get away with it and it's because the hype on that building right now is like I had to go and shoot it. It's like the Taj Mahal of graffiti right now it's fucking insane and it's like some post-apocalyptic type shit.
Brandon May:The building's almost done, but it's not quite there it's not quite there, and then it has this gorgeous graffiti all over it.
Zach Peacock:It's fucking nuts man you were out there.
Brandon May:Is it sketchy like no walkouts?
Zach Peacock:and stuff like that. No, it's not bad at all, I mean, but I gotta say that with a grain of salt for regular people. Nobody regular is wanting to do that shit, I'll climb. I don't have a fear of heights and like. That's another thing too is like anything that bothers me. I push towards it because I don't like. If I'm afraid of it, I'm like why am I afraid of this shit?
Zach Batista:like what's the?
Zach Peacock:fucking issue. So then that's the kind of shit where I'm like I want to push past it and like I don't know that's, that's my shit anything to get the shot right with.
Brandon May:That's it yeah yeah, anything to get the shot. I know I've what. Hang out of trucks, you know, following choppers or no, you were no, no, no, no, you were hanging out of the truck, no you were hanging out of the truck with my setup to film me on the Harley for my intro in California.
Zach Peacock:Sweethearts, shut the fuck up and downtown Riverside.
Zach Peacock:Ian was driving your truck and you were hanging out of the back of the truck and then ain't this a bitch? We did it for like, we do this. No, we have no harnesses. We didn't pull permits, we didn't do nothing. Brandon is hanging over the back of the tailgate of his truck with my camera on the gimbal and everything. We get all these amazing shots. We went all over downtown riverside. The second we pulled apart to stop this, a cop rolls up and he goes hey, you guys, you know you can't do that. And we're like oh yeah, we're just messing around.
Zach Batista:And he's like okay, cool yeah, so got all the shots you needed we got everything yeah, yeah, and then try to get busted down and then the cops pull up and they go. You guys can't do that so you were dropping some nuggets on me before the show even started about videography yeah where's? Where does that line up in your list of passions? So you got photography, skateboarding photography question so this because you I, I was checking out some of your stuff yeah to the photography and the and the vide videography. Yes, it's good.
Zach Batista:If you guys go check it out, yeah.
Zach Peacock:Like I said, everything comes from skateboarding. There isn't a single skateboarder who's not vain. We're all conceited so. Every skateboarder wants to see how they're doing it, how they can improve upon it, how they can like everything about it and like and now, with the digital age that we live in, we want to post it like that's like, and we want that gratification like oh fuck, you did, like, damn that, that. That was so, so much style you. You pointed your ankle, you did this, you did that kind of. So what I'm getting at is uh, so whatever we could do to find a camera, we would find a camera and then we would film. And I talk so much shit all the time about everything, and usually for good reason, because if I don't think I can't do it better than I'm not going to tell like everybody, everybody. There's like that famous quote it's like everybody is afraid of getting punched in the face until they get punched in the face. Yeah.
Zach Peacock:Like that's the truth, is like, oh yeah, I'm talking shit because I know I can get away with it, yeah, something. And then I'd look at it and I'd be like it's fucking terrible, dude. Like get lower, point it up, do this. Or like, dude, you're, it's fucking shaky. And they got tired of hearing me talk shit. This is like my teenage years. So they got tired of hearing me talk shit. So they're like, well, fuck you, you do it. And then so I got a camera and I and then it was my life's goal over the next course of the month or whatever, to be a better filmer than them, just to prove them that they were doing a terrible job at it.
Zach Batista:So it started as training footage yeah, briefly yeah, and then went into one year but it was.
Zach Peacock:but I'm saying it's because of skateboarding is like to perfect it, yeah. And then every time I got fucking hurt because you're gonna get hurt anything you give a shit about you're gonna it's gonna bite you in the ass. So every time I got hurt I couldn't skate I'd pick up the camera and then I'd shoot that way and it it. But it was. It was more than anything. It was just cause, like and I was I grew up crazy, fucking poor, and so the issue for me was, uh, I had to find a way to make myself valuable. My friends had cars. I didn't have a car. I couldn't afford a car. I didn't get my license until I was 22. And so I was driving all my friends' cars and everything Like. I've been driving cars since I was like 14, 15 years old, but I didn't have a license or anything, and we'd hang out, they'd be too drunk or whatever, and I'd get behind the wheel and I'd drive them back to the house, whatever it wasn't a big deal.
Zach Peacock:But so, being the poor kid, I asked my mom. I was like, don't give me anything for the next two years, buy me this camera. And so she got me like a little shitty, like handy cam type camera. Now I have the tools to get them to pick me up and I've had an amazing memory. Most of my life, my grandma. When I was like a baby she'd put me on her lap. Like this is before, like seatbelt laws and everything like the eighties shit was a little bit more relaxed now.
Zach Peacock:So my grandma put me on her lap behind the wheel and she'd tell me she'd take me to the park and then she'd come back. And then she, the next time she come pick me up, she'd be like, tell me where to go. And my mom told me, and my grandma told me that I would point the direction to get back to the park. So my memory has been amazing most the majority of my life and so that. But I'm not good with street signs. Like I'm, like I'm a landmark person, like I'll go to the del taco a right and they'll be like that weird fucked up tree, then make a left there.
Brandon May:Right.
Zach Peacock:That's how my I have to like I won't remember anybody's name, but it's like all associated with something Like, oh, your name is Zach, so fuck, that's an easy one for me.
Zach Peacock:I'm like, oh my name is Zach, so then I can associate or like remember your name. So I always like associated shit with that. So my memory was great. I had this camera now that my mom spent every fucking a penny that she had on for it and I like didn't get shit for years after I got the camera and it was like things were different back then. It was like maybe the camera was a couple hundred bucks. We didn't have a couple hundred bucks to throw away on some fucking camera, you know so anyways.
Zach Peacock:So now I have a camera and my memory is great, so they'd come pick me up. I'd be like, hey, I'll film you all day long and I'll give you your tape if you come pick me up and take me to the spot.
Zach Peacock:So now everybody's picking me up because I'll film them yeah so then I'm finding ways to get out of the house, and so now I'm going, and now I'm being taken to all these amazing skate spots. And now, my memory, I can remember how to get back there. So then, when somebody would hit me up and be like, hey, you guys were skating that spot in San Diego the other day, how did you get there? And I go well, I don't remember, I can't tell you, but if you pick me up I'll get you back there. So there was, I was, I had valid. I found a way to market myself even though I couldn't drive. I didn't have money to give them for gas. Even though gas was 98 cents a gallon back then. I still couldn't give them any money because I didn't have it.
Zach Peacock:So I was like, how can I make myself valuable? And that was the way that I made myself valuable is having the camera. But then having the camera and filming my friends and doing all this shit, then it's like, if you are mopping all the time, this is probably a shitty analogy, but it's like if you're mopping all the time, this is like a probably a shitty analogy, but it's like if you're mopping all the time, if you're detailing cars all the time because, like you just have to do it eventually, if you care about it in any way, if you want to be better at it, you're going to find ways to be good at that, correct. So that's just that's kind of what happened. This is it. All came from skateboarding. That's just what I'm trying to reiterate is like I got into cameras because of skateboarding of skateboarding.
Brandon May:Yeah, yeah, you're.
Speaker 3:I remember going to a uh film premiering for, uh, california sweethearts.
Brandon May:That was dope, yeah, yeah, first film I've ever premier, I've gone to for skateboarding and that was cool. Um, I know you have another project that you're working on right now Uh, concrete.
Zach Peacock:Uh, so the concrete buffet is my buddy, Eric Razzo. Okay, and his Instagram is at filmer dude. But that guy he's, he's the main like, he films pretty much everything, and then I'm just like getting pickup shots a lot of the time and he's like, he's like a, he takes great photos but he likes to film and do that type of thing and so that's his YouTube stuff. So we film, we go out every single Sunday. We've been going out every Sunday since like 2014.
Brandon May:He's getting better too on the board.
Zach Peacock:No, he's, he's. Eric's always been great. It's just that like I don't know if he didn't want us to film him or what the deal was, but and like we're being more mindful too. It's like when he starts fucking around, I'll just grab the camera and start filming him. Right.
Zach Peacock:So that's why he's getting more footage now. Eric has always been a solid skateboarder, but he would the second somebody would start trying a trick. You have to make that conscious decision. Am I going to keep skating and then film them when they ask me to film?
Brandon May:Or am I going to stop what I'm doing right now and start filming them? I used to always think that the filmer was shit and skateboarding because that's usually what happens.
Zach Peacock:It's either the guy who got hurt and then he picked up a camera and then ended up getting better at the camera shit. Then he realized that there was like a career path because, like, whether you want to film hollywood or you want to film skateboarding or any of that kind of that, or it's the fat friend every time, like most filmers and skateboarding were like the chubby dude who like wanted to be a part of the session but couldn't fucking keep up like skate wise here's your job now yeah, yeah right.
Zach Peacock:It's like this is your game.
Zach Peacock:You're doing this shit yeah so it just depends on how, that kind of that thing. But there is a lot of legit skateboarders like this guy bobby bills on instagram like he could have been pro but it's like. But he's a filmmaker and he's fucking amazing. And like, ty evans was like pretty solid skateboarder, like on chump on this, like that old skate video. It was just the filmers that they put in that video. Ty Evans is great. Ty Evans has been like my favorite filmmaker of all time, just like the way he's approached filming skateboarding Cause everybody films with a fish eye, big fish eye, on the, the VX 1000 or the 2,000, 2,100 or whatever the DVX, there's all these like skate cameras that they've used over the years with the fisheye.
Zach Peacock:But, like, ty Evans was one of the first people who was like, got a 4k camera, got a 10 80 camera and made it was HD and then it was widescreen, then he went to 4k and then now he's shooting like 12k is like I think his job now is, uh, he does all the aerial video stuff for like all over it doesn't matter. Like, if you want like amazing aerial cinematography, they put this like million dollar camera on the bottom of a helicopter and he's the one who controls it, jesus, and he does it for, like he does it for all the movies in hollywood, I'm sure he does it for anybody who needs a real like helicopter shot I've always found it interesting, though, like you pull these crazy accounts.
Brandon May:Right now You're working with speaking, speaking. Uh, it's a motorcycle company.
Zach Peacock:Yeah, it's like they do, they, they. He makes hard parts. So he does like bars and risers and pegs and Steve makes all kinds of stuff. He's done like, he's like he's. I mean he's like I don't like the term artist for myself because I think it's like some kook shit, but an artist is somebody who's like put, like, if you want to paint and you can draw and you do all like, whatever your field takes you research and you knock out every piece that has to do with that. So, steve, he's like he rides motorcycles, he's passionate about motorcycles but he rides Harleys fast and hard and he's really good at it. So that's something that Harleys are known for.
Zach Peacock:Usually you ride a sport bike, but Steve likes Harleys. So if you lean the bike over and your peg starts to scrape, steve's like how do I fix this issue? How can I lean the bike over farther for a more performance-type thing and get the pegs not to scrape? So then, like, the pegs got a little bit shorter, maybe they got a little bit longer, and then now they have like a slash cut on the bottom of them so he can lean the bike over lower and you're not hitting the peg as much, or like the bars, put you in a certain position on the bike, so it's more performance driven does b kings have a race team, or they did.
Zach Peacock:Yeah, like he more sponsors people, so he's done that where he just will outfit their bikes with the proper things to do that, because there's a bunch of people that are in the Bagger Racing League, the BRL, and he sponsors a shit ton of people in that circuit. He sponsored a bunch of dudes who were doing stunt riding, because these stunt riders would be stunning their Harleys and they're not made for that either these 700 pound motorcycles that are doing wheelies and shits. So he was. They like they'd come down and then the bracket that holds the peg would snap off and he'd be like okay, well, he has a cnc machine and then he'll just like go into the app where you design the uh the part in digital space before you send it to the cnc machine, and he would like make these parts 10 times stronger, 10 times better. Harley makes stuff for these overweight people to ride their bikes cross country cruising.
Zach Peacock:They don't give a shit about the people that are stunt riding. They don't give a shit about the people that are riding their bikes fast and all like that. Like I'm on the other side of the coin now, like I'm, I'm seeing, I seen behind the veil in the Harley world and it's not as big as people think it is. Harley isn't like. They're not promoting the shit like you think they are. It's different and I'm not a part of. I'm like I'm a part of the world because I like to film and do that kind of stuff for these people, because that's what I do. I ride motorcycles too, so I want to be a part of the industry, but I don't like I don't have to fuck with Harley-Davidson. I don't ride a Harley-Davidson, I ride Husqvarna motorcycles.
Brandon May:That should be funny too, because he will switch it up. Yeah, right now he's got a tour bike. I was like P, like I called him, I was like what?
Zach Batista:the fuck is that? What are you doing on that? What are you doing, bro?
Brandon May:Like what's going on you know, and he'll. He's had a Grom.
Zach Batista:He's had like three Groms. I've never seen the Vespa, I've never seen the.
Zach Peacock:Vespa yeah, yeah, I had three Vespas. I've had four Groms, I've had all kinds of bikes, but it's I like motorcycles. And then I was also on through those like 48 bikes or however many bikes it was that I've had. I was looking for the perfect bike. You're just playing with them. This. What do I like? My perfect job would probably be like working for some motorcycle dealership so that they can just like let me take these bikes out, make a youtube review for it.
Zach Peacock:That would be the shit, because then I won't have to spend fifteen thousand dollars on a motorcycle and then realize how much I don't like it. So that's always been an issue. But but yeah, I was looking for the perfect motorcycle and there's two bikes that kind of fit the build for what I've liked over the years.
Brandon May:That's what's next, because I know you got motorcycle wise, yeah, motorcycle it's, that's.
Zach Peacock:I'm not like, uh, the bike that I have right now, the husqvarna norden 901, so it's like 900 cc, like they like. Technically it's like an adventure bike yeah but the thing's fast as shit.
Zach Peacock:It might as well be a sport bike and it's got cruise control. It's got a heated seat, heated grips. It's like the navigation comes up on the screen, my text messages, my phone calls come up on the screen. It's wild, like it's this big techie. It's got a windshield. It's so comfortable on the freeway so I've like I've reached what I wanted, but that's not what oh?
Brandon May:shit no, no, seriously, oh shit. This is where I hey you said jump in motherfucker. Yeah right, yeah, I've reached, but there is no limit. There is no limit. You're gonna, as soon as they come out with something that's a little different, that's well as of right.
Zach Peacock:They don't have anything right now.
Zach Batista:Yeah, that you want to try and the things that I've like, fine-tuned like.
Zach Peacock:I had the uh husqvarna 701 super moto. That was probably the definition of my favorite bike. Okay, my favorite sounding motor is the fz mto7, the husk of honor super moto, the 701, that sm bike that I had.
Brandon May:Seven, uh, the gray one with the neon.
Zach Peacock:It was the one that I put new plastics on the whole bike so it was all black with like a little bit of that high the high vis yellow that was, that was that bike was the shit I like the the metal one the custom metal one.
Brandon May:Oh, that was the DR650. It was a Suzuki DR650. Man, that was dope.
Zach Peacock:That bike was rad. That bike started off as a big old hunk of shit. Right, it was the process. After we put all the work into it, it was gorgeous.
Brandon May:Yeah, that one was dope.
Zach Batista:I want to jump on that question. I saw you post something the other day. It was like skateboarding until 40 or through 40 or something like that it was probably anytime I find a meme, I'm like I'm fucking so is that? Where is that?
Zach Peacock:where you see yourself just just keep skateboarding, and, and because that's, that's your passion chet thomas had the best quote and I I say it all the time and it was like a video that came out like the late 90s. But uh, it was a video called canvas or not. Might have been canvas, I don't remember what video was, but no, I think it was a different globe video. But Chet Thomas is a pro skateboarder from the nineties and he at the end of his video part. It just cuts to a scene of him talking and he just said I'll skate till I can't walk.
Zach Batista:Nice, that's kind of like where your mentality is right now.
Zach Peacock:It's like the one that like how I walk, that's, that's like it's not even an option. I, when I got hit by the the this kind of harks back to that when I got hit by the semi truck and I'm like in a wheelchair and I'm all busted up and everything, the doctor's like, okay, cool. And he's telling me like what's, what is, what is, what are the next steps of my life? And then I like, I kind of like in one ear and out the other, and then finally, when he's done talking, I go cool, man, so when can I get back to like rolling around on the skateboard or whatever? And the doctor laughed and he goes you're walking with a cane for the rest of your life. And I like, and I know he has cause, there's a lot of fat, lazy people in this world and if he tells everybody the truth, like, hey, if you're motivated and you get off your fucking ass and go do something, then like, yeah, you'll get back to skating eventually, like if you work real fucking hard.
Zach Peacock:I had a broken hip. My femur was shattered, my knee was halfway down, my shin, my radius, my ulna on my left arm, both the bones in your forearm were broken, destroyed. My elbow was gone, my wrist completely shattered, so all these things. Everything on the the left hand side was completely obliterated. So I get where he was coming from. He thought he's like I was doing. He's never gonna fucking skate again, he's a walker the cane. Yeah, he's a broken mess. Yeah, but he didn't understand that he was talking to a real skateboarder yeah and I'm not willing, I'm not gonna lay down and fucking die.
Zach Peacock:It doesn't, that doesn't exist. So whatever I had to do to get back to skateboarding was going to happen. So seven months after that conversation with that guy, I stepped on a skateboard for the first time and got to roll around the skate park and it felt fucking terrible. Oh I bet it was so uncomfortable, like it was the worst shit ever. But I was like oh bitch, this is it that made you want more too, I was like, if I can do, this was. I was like I know there's, it's just fucking.
Brandon May:I was like that guy fucked up, he didn't realize who he was talking to it was funny too, like working in the shop with him when he would go through these things and like being an artist around him when you would get sick and stuff and not want to come into work and he'd be in here fucking dying and shit yeah, he'd be like all right, there's no excuses and stuff.
Brandon May:So it kind of sucked too, for us too, just because it's like he would always be there Fucking, banging out tattoos, looking clean on time, clean fucking booth. He never offered any room for fucking excuses and shit.
Zach Peacock:That's thanks to my grandpa, though that's World War II military.
Zach Batista:Yeah, that's a totally different breed. Yeah, you've always spoke highly of Zach.
Brandon May:Oh, dude, I've learned so much from this dude. We used to fucking get into it too. We have the ability to fucking ignite at any point in time, but there's just this mutual respect you know what I mean and his consistency and my consistency kind of really worked the fuck out.
Zach Peacock:You know, like his honesty, like he'd be saying some fucked up shit brandon brandon's a no bullshit person and neither am I, but and brandon will call you on your bullshit when you say some dumb shit all the time. And so it's like, if I hear something and I'm like that's fucking ridiculous even if I'm trying to be combative a little bit or whatever like I'm gonna ride that shit out. I'm like, and I started talking shit, so guess what I'm gonna keep, I'm not gonna fucking say I was wrong, I'm gonna keep digging in if I fucked up. I'm like, oh well, we're gonna ride this shit out as far as we gotta go. And I didn't know that my liver was failing this whole fucking time.
Brandon May:So I'm real pissed off all the goddamn time but you know what, though I I with that relationship that we had working here. That was a really good point of life right there, even though with all the trauma and stuff like that.
Zach Peacock:But that's what it is. That was a good point of life. What do they say? Trauma bond?
Brandon May:Yeah, that's a real thing. Yeah, it was a trauma bond. I was there for my guy.
Speaker 3:I used to tell Brian like hey bro, if this nigga dies.
Brandon May:I'm the only motherfucker here Like. I'm fucking here Like what do you want me to do?
Zach Batista:Yeah, I'll run the shop.
Brandon May:Yeah, he just passed out Like I don't know man. He not looking good and now he's over here two weeks later. Oh yeah, I'm out here. I'm back out here. I'm like guys, you need to calm your ass down, like nah.
Zach Peacock:Well, and that's the thing too is like, if you feel like shit and you know you feel like shit. My eyes were yellow.
Zach Batista:Like I, my liver's failing. I'm pretty sure I saw you with fucking yellow eyes one time. When your liver's failing.
Zach Peacock:You have that like hepatitis, jaundice look. So because of that, I like it was obvious, it was all over my body, like when somebody looked at me they'd be like hey, are you doing okay? And when you hear some shit like that all the time, even if you don't feel good, that like the last thing you want to hear is like how you doing? I'm like, fuck you, I'm fine like, leave me the fuck alone.
Zach Peacock:So it's like I got tired of hearing that shit. So anytime somebody and brandon's like, brandon cares, so brandon, be like hey, you good, you doing all right. I'm like man, fuck you, stop asking me that shit, so you want to get more yeah, no, I'd be like.
Brandon May:So you, you're telling me you want a hug, then yeah, yeah, yeah you know, what I mean? Really funny and I'll literally go over there and hug cuz yeah, yeah yeah, get you one of these you know what I mean like we better get the fuck, because you don't like shit like
Zach Peacock:that too, so you know, my mom is super, super affectionate, like the word love doesn't have much of a meaning to me, because my mom would be like she'd walk into the living room and I'd be doing something. She'd be like, hey, everything, okay, love you. And I'd be like I love you. And then she'd go in the kitchen, she'd go in the bathroom and like two seconds later she'd be like all right, I'm gonna go outside, love you. And I'd be like, yeah, I love you. And then eventually, like I I barely tell my mom's, like touching me on the shoulder like hey, honey, like is there anything like that? And so that kind of shit pushed me the fuck away. Like even with all I've fucked up every relationship I've ever been in, like I'm single right now because of shit like that, because like I'll sit down and then I'm like I want to be affectionate, I want to cuddle, but then they like start to get close to me and I'm scooting to the other side of the couch and I don't even realize I'm doing it.
Zach Peacock:It's because my mom is so fucking loving and so affectionate and such a good person that it fucked me up.
Brandon May:Y'all just got to lean in.
Zach Peacock:I'm getting better at it. I've realized the last two serious relationships that I've had. I've been the skateboarder in me, the ignorant, shitty person and my past of not wanting to be affectionate. It is fucked up every real relationship I've ever had. So it's like I'm having like the next one that I have I'll be that much better at like, like I'll try to be aware in the moment that I'm like I'm fucking this up.
Brandon May:Yeah, I mean, fuck man, I don't think. If I'm going to be honest, I don't think that's just going to happen, you know, just based off of that.
Zach Peacock:And you're not wrong, because I've been this way for 38 fucking years, yeah and that's not a diss.
Brandon May:I just feel like your pursuit towards life is not going to allow you to have a consistent relationship. Like Gus goes hard, he's gone yeah. Gone Up north, the fucking. Where the fuck was the fucking? I saw shots of san pedro fucking well, that was yesterday yesterday, yeah, yeah, every sunday is skateboarding, yeah uh, nine o'clock every day here, and then he gets pissed off when you fuck up his schedule too yeah so he's a creature of habit I've been getting better about that too, though.
Zach Peacock:It's like because I realized that, like like brian, brian, brian, I was in the back room and then Brian would be like, oh, you're going to go in the lobby now, and I'm like, man, fuck that, I got my booth set up the way I like my booth. I ain't going fucking nowhere, like tough shit yeah.
Zach Peacock:So because Brian always would be like well, so because working for Brian and being around Brian and Brian's a good dude, so I was just like all right, I got to back the fuck off with this shit Like I have to like that was a big thing You're saying you don't like change.
Zach Peacock:I don't, I didn't for and, like I, I'm trying to make an honest effort, and being here has been so. We're always changing something in the shop. So, like with the shop change, I've been so open, like recently when we ripped apart the back. He was like okay, zach, you're gonna go back on the other side. I was like at first I was like god damn it, but then I was like well, you like it on this side, you might like it on that side.
Zach Peacock:Yeah, yeah so it's like, like my initial is to fucking hate and be against everything. But then I have to like take a second and I'm like, all right, yeah, this might be cool, and that's the new part. He didn't have that shit before. I didn't have that shit my whole fucking life it was just like yeah, this dude is motherfucking crazy like calm your ass down and it's not even I, wake up and choose violence yeah, yeah, I see that, yeah, so it's not even there's no like I don't have like like my.
Zach Peacock:My level is at 13 all day. Yeah, like I got, I'm so opinionated and I'm so passionate about the shit that I fuck with that. It's like if you come into my space and you're like, hey, tell me about cameras, I'm just like I don't want to learn about no fucking cameras. Like, sit the fuck down, we'll tell you about cameras. So there's like I'm just already.
Brandon May:You hate inauthentic. Yeah, you hate inauthentic. He's very like if you come to him because of skateboarding, right, and you have a disposable camera and you're like and you want to talk about cameras, you're probably going to get cussed out. Yeah, you're not going to have. Or if you're a little kid, then he's going to spend all the time and like I don't want you to demonize yourself, you're not right?
Zach Peacock:no, I know, you know what I mean you're not so fucking.
Brandon May:Some fucking people love you, bro, yeah, which I find fucking high.
Zach Peacock:You know what I mean? It's because they don't the bullshit. There's no bullshit, right. I'm me all the fucking time Right. It's like Whether you like it or not.
Brandon May:People be like oh fucking, Peacock, you ain't got a great following. And shit, this motherfucker crazy. He be saying all kinds of crazy shit. Not to offend people. You want to hear something funny.
Zach Peacock:This morning I got a perfect example of that. This guy hits me up and he's like oh, can you touch up this tattoo you did eight years ago? And I go send me a picture of it. He sends me the picture and it looks like a tattoo that's been settled in and he's got a hairy leg and like want touched up. And he's just like it's kind of like it's. It's not as black as it once was, like it's not punchy, and I go I can show you the text message the text message read verbatim shave your leg and put some lotion on it.
Brandon May:Yeah, oh, yeah, right, yeah, because I care the self-care people.
Zach Batista:People neglect that a lot too.
Zach Peacock:The tattoo looks better when your fucking leg doesn't have a beard on it and you put lotion on that shit and this dude's white. You don't got to be black to put lotion on.
Brandon May:Come on now yeah, it's your particular person with style, skateboarding cars. I've seen him buy. You got your tacoma and he took that bitch right back I had the tacoma for a month and a half yeah, he took that one and I got it from a dealership. Yeah.
Zach Batista:I saw it out front too. No, no, no, that's the Ranger.
Zach Peacock:Oh, that was the Ranger. Okay, the one out front is a Ranger. I just got that.
Zach Batista:I think I came in on a session and you had just gotten the Tacoma. Yeah.
Zach Peacock:And you turned that back around. Yeah, so I had it for, because of all the motorcycle shit that I do. Absolutely and like having a car is just it's kind of like oxymoron shit, like you got a car but you have. You're dealing with electric bikes and motorcycles and parts and you got friends that ride bikes and you can't help.
Zach Batista:It doesn't make sense. You can't help none of your friends out.
Zach Peacock:You can't help yourself out.
Zach Batista:Yeah.
Zach Peacock:Can't haul a trailer the right way cylinder. So I was like this thing fucking sucks. So then I took it back to the dealership and I was like fuck this thing, I want a hatchback. So I got another. I got back into a car and I love that car that car was a shit.
Brandon May:Took the ducati back yeah, I got a.
Zach Peacock:I got a ducati hyper mozart, okay, and I had that for two days shut up. I rode down to san diego, I dropped the bike. I traded my bike in the 701 supermoto. I traded that bike in for this hyper motard ducati. It was a 950. I got the bike, I rode it home and the whole way home I'm just like god damn, this bike's got so much power and like the seating position was kind of aggressive because it's, it's, it's a supermoto, but it's, it's a, it's a sport bike and drag that's, let's be realistic, like that's what it was like this bitch this bitch had a dress on on.
Zach Peacock:She's trying to act like a woman, but she ain't no bitch. Yeah, yeah, it was fucked up. Yeah, so I get it home, I ride it around the weekend and every gear is just like bop, bop, bop. There was no roll on the throttle, it's hard, it was on-off on-off.
Zach Peacock:And I'm riding around town and I'm just like ride sport bikes. I've ridden them and I realized that that's not my shit. Like I want a bike that I can just ride around town if I want to do wheelies, if I want to jump off a curb, if I want to be a dick, then like that's why I got into like the enduro or like the, the dual sport bikes, because it's a street, legal, dirt bike and I can be a dick out there yeah it's like it's a skateboarder's bike.
Zach Peacock:That's what I call dual sport bikes, because it's like you're going, you want to get on the curb, you want to jump off the curb. You want to do a wheelie, you want to not do wheelie, you want to. You want to burn out, you want to fuck around it's like some dirt skateboarding yeah it's skateboarding at a faster pace.
Zach Peacock:So I had the ducati all weekend and then on monday I got the bike on saturday and then monday comes around. I called dealership and I was like, hey, you still have my bike and they're like, yeah, it's been two days.
Zach Peacock:I was like, hang on to it, I'm bringing the bike back. And he's like what? Like I'm riding the bike back, I'm coming to pick my bike up. I was like this thing's gonna fucking kill me. And I and he's just like he didn't understand, I go, I know that you guys already started the dmv paperwork. I was like I understand that.
Zach Peacock:Like I'm gonna have to eat some money out of this yeah I was like, but I'm coming to get my bike and I'm giving you this bike back, and then so I go down there and it was like 1700, was like the DMV fees and all that kind of shit, just to get things switched back out.
Brandon May:Yeah, that never settles.
Zach Peacock:No man, I know what I'm looking for. I'm looking for what I'm looking for, and until I'm like I'm never satisfied, but I'm like, oh, this is pretty fucking cool for right now. And until I get to that point, then I'm like I'm good with that for right now. So, yeah, I don't care how much it costs or how much bullshit, and I'm not fucking rich, it's just that I'm looking for what I am looking for. And until, like, if I get something and I fucked up, I'll admit it I'm like yo, that bike was too much bike for me. I had to take that fucking ducati back.
Brandon May:It was going to kill me explain to these fools why you can't wear vans and nike socks.
Zach Batista:Oh nice I was hoping.
Brandon May:I was hoping that would come up yeah, explain to these fools why you can't wear Vans, which I agree.
Zach Peacock:So the thing with that is I'm posting what I'm posting on Instagram all the time is I'm making fun of people who are cross-branding. If you, as a skateboarder, everything like I said, everything comes back to skateboarding I was sponsored by a shoe company. It was this company called Vox I boarding. If I was sponsored by a shoe company, it was this company called vox, I think they were based out of san diego, and when I was skating for vox shoes, if I was wearing a vans t-shirt or a vans hat or adidas track pants or fucking nike socks, they'd be like what the fuck?
Zach Peacock:make you toss it, it's cross branding if I get a photo in a magazine and I got a fucking vox t-shirt on, but I got van shoes on thank you.
Brandon May:they're like you look like a piece of shit. You do look like a piece of shit Straight up. I'm on your team.
Zach Peacock:So when I see these motherfuckers out in the real world this dumb motherfucker got a Nike hat on and his Adidas shirt, but he's got Pumas on I'm like, did you? Just wake up and say fuck it, I don't give a fuck how you look yeah like. What kind of a person in the rest of your life are you like? Okay cool. Like you, just like your girlfriend makes your meals for you. You like your mom gave you the car to drive. Like you just you, just a fucked up person.
Brandon May:Like you got no independence in your life the only person that could get away with that is goose, yeah goose is a wild man.
Zach Peacock:Let goose, beose be wild. One of our homeboys from back in the day, he ran the local active ride shop that was right here in Riverside yeah. Goose was doing some wild shit. Yeah, he good with it but he had the swag to back it up but he looked good doing it yeah yeah, I feel like yeah.
Zach Peacock:I'm tough, so that's why it's like I say, like all that shit about mixed mash and all like that, I don't understand that. I don't know if Nike socks are that comfortable. I don't fucking wear Nike socks. I don't fart, you know. But everybody who wears slip on bands or simple vans, I get it Cause they're simple, they match with fucking everything. They're all wearing Nike socks, so it's like it.
Zach Batista:I didn't realize how deep this fucking went.
Zach Peacock:And I'm just as white girl as everybody else at Starbucks, so it's like I go to Starbucks once, twice a day. Yeah, all these fucking kooks at Starbucks are wearing pulled up Nike socks with Vans shoes.
Brandon May:It's a style, it's wild. I didn't realize that it's a style. It's bullshit, is what it is. They're like yo. Let me get those Nike socks.
Zach Batista:Yeah.
Zach Peacock:He was to ask you this question and he brought up to me yesterday and I didn't get it. And now I'm starting to get it. People always talk shit on me, like they'll like right, they'll respond to me. Talking shit on somebody from mix mashing they go. Well, what if that's all he had? Move on, I'm like well, he spent more money on those nike socks. Yeah, then going to costco and getting a 50 pack of kirkland socks, or going to walmart or target and getting a fucking 12 pack of socks that cost like 10 fucking dollars, that don't have no logos on it, if you're out there shining and banging on people with your socks pulled up and you're trying to just like logo, bang on everybody, match your fucking shit, dude. That's my point. It's like he didn't have to put those Nike socks on. He could have put some beat ass. All those are the only ones that I had clean. Then do your fucking laundry retard Like. I can't help you.
Zach Peacock:You got no fucking excuse I told you.
Brandon May:I told you that shit gets me going. Follow his Instagram. What's your Instagram?
Zach Peacock:At Zach Peacock, it's Z-A-C-H because my name is Zachary, so at Zach. Peacock Peacock like the bird.
Brandon May:Posting some funny stuff. His work is solid too, guys. He's a great tattooer. Um, everything is clean, meticulous. Um, if you have something cool to shoot, you guys should hit him up, and then maybe yeah like I've.
Zach Peacock:I've filmed my, my most recent ex-girlfriend. She's. She's still the shit, like I love her daughter, like my own and her name, natalia thomas she's. She's the best she was doing all the murder.
Speaker 3:Miss murder case at miss murder case on instagram yes, sir, but she does like all.
Zach Peacock:She's the best. She was doing all the Miss Murder, miss Murder Case At Miss Murder Case on Instagram, yes, sir, but she does like all. She's like real big into fitness. She was a Marine, like she did all. She did her tour. She was in Afghanistan. She was in Okinawa Like she put it down for the United States, and so she's really big on fitness because of all like her past and everything. And then she got into the pole fitness shit. So it's kind of like pole dancing without stripping type it was hard, yeah and like I always like fucking joke around and stuff.
Zach Peacock:But there was a pole at the house and I tried to pull myself up and I was like, oh, I don't have this no and I've been like you're talking to somebody who's fairly athletic, like I can, I can run, I can jog, I can do all these things because of skateboarding, like, oh, I've never, ever gone to the gym to work out. I still don't go to the fucking gym to work out because, like skateboarding has kept me in shape. I always like I talk shit people be like, oh, you work out, you do this kind of stuff. I'm like man, fuck, you ain't going to the gym. Like gyms for a bunch of kooks, like fuck the gym.
Zach Peacock:But in hindsight, skateboarding I was skating and so that was what was making me like keeping me in shape. So I didn't have to go to the gym. So there's a little caveat to that, but so I got it. What I was getting at was she's I started shooting pole dancers and I started filming and taking pictures of them and it was this rad Avenue and so what I was talking about earlier was like not being willing to settle. So it's like I never I never said no to anything.
Brandon May:It was amazing work. So when something yeah.
Zach Batista:Everybody would say that Doing Lord's work out there, yeah, yeah yeah, heaven forbid.
Zach Peacock:there's a bunch of gorgeous girls in lingerie.
Zach Batista:Oh sorry.
Brandon May:Boo fucking, hoo hoo. Exactly, I'm over here trying to be quiet like that. Yeah, yeah, I saw his face. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that was amazing.
Zach Peacock:Yeah, good on you, sir but it's like recently, one of the girls that did all the pole dancing stuff, she's like she has grown up with horses and she loves that lifestyle so recently. Like I've been trying to link up with her for years, like our schedules didn't work out so I've never filmed horses before and so, and she's rad, she's such a good chick. Her name is jory and she's like j-o-r-y, I think, or e-y I'm sorry I fucked that up, but she's the best and she's such a sweetheart. And like her whole life is horses. Just like my life is skateboarding, but people only know me as a tattooer. And I'm like no, no, no, there's more to this shit than that. So I wanted like maybe people only know her as a pole dancer or whatever. But I'm like no, you gotta see how amazing this chick. She's been breaking horses her whole fucking life. Like bring me your beat-ass, shitty-ass horse that don't listen.
Brandon May:She's like I'll turn that motherfucker out so is it interest that it's kind of you who decides what you do next? Huh.
Zach Peacock:I, because I don't make money filming. I don't charge people any of that kind of stuff which is crazy so. But it also allows me to be picky and do the shit that I want to do. And if you're like, hey, will you film me skateboarding, blah blah, then I might charge you to do that shit because it falls into an interest that I'm interested in and if it's going to cut into tattooing, time, taking time away. Yeah, if it's taking time away, then I might charge you to do it. That's different.
Zach Peacock:But, I never shot horses before, so I've been trying to go out with her to go shoot the horses and so I shot the horses and it was fucking rad, like it was wild, seeing her world and being a part of it and doing all that, and it was dope just to be that. So what I'm saying is I want to shoot everything at least once, because what if I don't know that? That's what I like. That might be my favorite fucking thing of all time to shoot. And if you're ignorant I'm fucking skateboarder, I don't shoot horses then you'll never know that that was the dopest thing that you could have been shooting when I used to shoot.
Brandon May:Uh, going to new experiences was always really hard yeah, you know um finding the angle, understanding the lighting yeah the movement. Yeah, um, how you should be shooting the first day you go out. There is usually just a day-to-day it's chaos. You know what I mean, and then you kind of get the lay of the land. I feel like any time you add motion into photographer it just adds a whole different element.
Zach Peacock:But that's where I'm comfortable because of skateboarding, everything comes back to skateboarding and because skateboarders don't wait for you to set all your gear up, like there's no. Like on a movie set it's like, okay, cool, we're gonna light the set. Three hours later they're like, okay, bring the actors in, because they already had a stand-in to get the lighting right, and all like that. The actors come in. I'm not saying it's easy, but I'm saying they talk their shit, they do the thing, they do like 50 takes or whatever, and then they bounce. They don't see like the fucking five days of prep that went into that, and like the camera guy, like they've been figuring out the angles and blah, blah, blah. What I'm getting at is they have all this fucking prep time when you're filming skateboarding.
Zach Peacock:It's just like, hey, you ready, let's go uh was fully flared set up no that was just on the intro was like they, they that was purposeful, like they set that up and did all that. But it's just a skate video.
Brandon May:It's just run and gun get after the skate video almost, or uh, yeah right, is it?
Zach Peacock:yeah right are you talking like cheese and crackers on the mini ramp?
Brandon May:nah, they're doing all of these crazy things oh so.
Zach Peacock:So girl skateboards it's under the, the umbrella of krail tap. Krail tap is like royal trucks, girl and chocolate skateboards, four-star clothing, leaving somebody out, whatever. All those those little entities that they have under that umbrella. Their real type was spike, spike jones. And spike jones is a skateboarder and filmed skateboarding with his friends and grew up riding BMX and skateboards. And he just happened to be skating with Eric Koston and Mike Carroll and Rick Howard. That was his group of people. So as he got better at filming and then, like somebody saw his, like a video that he had produced, and then they were like oh shit, will you film our music video? So then, like the Beastie Boys, whoever runs the, the beastie boys hit him up. So he did all the beastie boys music videos. So he has, like, this wealth of music video filming because of skateboarding. It got him into music videos and then he started filming like he did her and where the wild things are spike spike. He's done so many amazing, real big budget movies that dude's a fucking skateboarder.
Zach Batista:Oh no, what happened to the audio? Did it cut out? Ha ha, no, just me. Find out what Zach Peacock really likes, along with some wild and crazy stories from the beginning of his tattoo career. Also more about Spike Jones. All this continued on Bee Disease. Next episode Dun dun dun. Oh. Ps. If you haven't subscribed yet, you probably should now. And you know, I mean give it like five or six stars. You can follow on all your preferred listening apps Apple, amazon, spotify. Thanks a lot, I appreciate the listen. Rock on. Thank you.