Ever wondered how the vibrant, inked world of tattooing meshes with the curated galleries of Instagram? Strap in as we bring the heat, dissecting the intersection of social media and skin art. We're tearing down the fourth wall, engaging directly with you, our Instagram tribe, to stitch together a podcast episode that's as spontaneous as a stick-and-poke tattoo at a house party. Your questions fuel our fireside chat, casting light on the peculiar balance between digital connection and personal space—all wrapped up in stories that reveal the colorful fabric of our industry, like that time a deaf client gestured their way into preparing for the most unconventional of events.
But it's not all sunshine and screen time; we throw a spotlight on the darker side of our digital lives. Feel the weight of a tattoo artist's social media presence—where 24/7 accessibility is a double-edged sword, slicing through personal time and warping client expectations. I'm not shy about sharing the tightrope walk of posting our work online, sifting through DMs for the perfect client, and the sacred art of safeguarding personal space. It's a candid look behind the ink-stained curtain of our lives online, where we strive to keep our heads above the algorithmic waves without drowning in notifications.
Finally, we cap off with a riff on the ripple effects of social media on our personal lives. We're popping bottles over the end of our shadow ban and amplifying our voices to Pandora's vast audience. I'll lay it bare—how tapping a heart on a photo can tug at the heartstrings of a relationship, and why sometimes a post is more than just a post. We close with a nod to your voices, the chorus behind our podcast passion, and drop hints about the guests and stories waiting in the wings. So, here's a heartfelt salute to you, our supporters; your presence is the pulse of our show. Keep tuning in for the ink-spired sagas that lie ahead.
Ever wondered how the vibrant, inked world of tattooing meshes with the curated galleries of Instagram? Strap in as we bring the heat, dissecting the intersection of social media and skin art. We're tearing down the fourth wall, engaging directly with you, our Instagram tribe, to stitch together a podcast episode that's as spontaneous as a stick-and-poke tattoo at a house party. Your questions fuel our fireside chat, casting light on the peculiar balance between digital connection and personal space—all wrapped up in stories that reveal the colorful fabric of our industry, like that time a deaf client gestured their way into preparing for the most unconventional of events.
But it's not all sunshine and screen time; we throw a spotlight on the darker side of our digital lives. Feel the weight of a tattoo artist's social media presence—where 24/7 accessibility is a double-edged sword, slicing through personal time and warping client expectations. I'm not shy about sharing the tightrope walk of posting our work online, sifting through DMs for the perfect client, and the sacred art of safeguarding personal space. It's a candid look behind the ink-stained curtain of our lives online, where we strive to keep our heads above the algorithmic waves without drowning in notifications.
Finally, we cap off with a riff on the ripple effects of social media on our personal lives. We're popping bottles over the end of our shadow ban and amplifying our voices to Pandora's vast audience. I'll lay it bare—how tapping a heart on a photo can tug at the heartstrings of a relationship, and why sometimes a post is more than just a post. We close with a nod to your voices, the chorus behind our podcast passion, and drop hints about the guests and stories waiting in the wings. So, here's a heartfelt salute to you, our supporters; your presence is the pulse of our show. Keep tuning in for the ink-spired sagas that lie ahead.
Good evening, good evening, 4.46 pm, march 29th. We're actually live on our Instagram right now doing some filming and we want to. We're going to ask the doing some filming and we want to. We're going to ask the audience for some questions. We want some questions for you guys. You guys can throw a few questions on the board and then we're going to address them during the podcast. We'll try something different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely trying something different, Kind of making it about social media a little bit. We're kind of trying to have somewhat of an over theme, so what a better way to bring in social media? With social media we're live.
Speaker 1:Social media platform we tend to use the most is Instagram, so go ahead and follow it. If you haven't, it's at B2Z podcast. And also today we're trying something we haven't tried since our very first our trailer. That was episode zero. On our podcast, we're recording after a tattoo session on me yes, this is true which I was concerned about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the quality. Well, the quality and just seeing if you were going to be too spent. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, but we're good, I feel great. Energy is high. Yeah, I'm sure Energy is at an all-time high, all-time high yeah.
Speaker 1:Which brings me to a few feedback comments. One was I'm not going to say who, because it was kind of general across the board People wanted to see us. So that, again, that's why we're trying the Instagram live. We're going to be posting some more videos, more clips, because we got good feedback from those. Yeah, yeah, we enjoyed it. Yeah, honestly, we didn't know how much we were going to enjoy this until we started, Right.
Speaker 2:And it's been exciting too the whole way through. We look forward to coming and talking to you guys and bringing our narrative to the story.
Speaker 1:So some straight up quick shout outs, some straight up quick shout outs, if you can give, at the ghost charades. That's C-H-A, r-a-d-e-s. That's Lamar Neal. He gave us some excellent, excellent feedback. He sent us a DM and showed us some love. We really appreciate that. Another colleague of ours, uriel Sainz it's at Uriel U-R-I-E-L-S-A-E-N-Z. He gave us some really good feedback as well, and I know him through the Working Dogs for Warriors.
Speaker 1:He has a service dog as as well what kind of dog he has, probably, and everyone gives him a little shit for it. Yeah, because it's a labradoodle or it's a, it's a doodle, okay, straight up doodle, and he has, he has. The dog has his own, his own page too. It's at, uh, sirvalentino.
Speaker 2:Oh, SirValentino, huh, Fancy dog man. Yeah, he is.
Speaker 1:I love that dog Right on.
Speaker 2:Thank you for your feedback. What are they saying? What did Lamar say? And then what did the? What was the other gentleman's name, uriel Uriel. Give me a little breakdown.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So, uriel, again, they listened to it, they checked everything out and he said I like the. Uriel said specifically, I like the loose script and he likes that we're including the listeners so far. So I just hope we keep getting better and better at doing that. Yeah, yeah I feel like the more getting better and better at doing that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I feel like the more tight we get, the more uncomfortable we get.
Speaker 1:It's just like a pair of jeans.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying? That's right.
Speaker 1:We want to keep them loose so we can breathe. And then the shout out to Lamar that came from he just said loving the content so far.
Speaker 2:The audio.
Speaker 1:He brought the audio. We're always trying to work on that, um, hopefully, hopefully it keeps that continues to get better as well. Um is our, it's our technical knowledge, um, and he actually he had a. Yeah, I'm glad you brought this up. He had a question. He goes uh, I, I think it would be dope to hear more about the most fascinating tattoos you have ever done, or the most bizarre.
Speaker 2:I know you got a story for that.
Speaker 1:What do you got?
Speaker 2:Oh, story time. Okay, I was tattooing this deaf lady one time. We were communicating all on notepad, which was different, right? So there's a lot of lost in translation type moments, and I'm not a signer or ASL whiz or anything like that. Shout out to the ones that are. And we were doing a tattoo as a praying mantis on her foot. As I'm doing the tattoo, you know, she's kind of getting a little bit antsy and stuff like that. She's also talking to gentlemen on FaceTime, talking to them, signing to them on FaceTime, and I'm like, oh, OK, I write down what are you doing. Because there's like five guys on there, you know. And I was like, okay, what is it you're doing? And she was like oh, you know, I'm living my life. And I was like well, what does that mean, you know? And she's like well, I'm preparing for a gangbang and that's number seven. And I'm like what? She's like, yeah, I have a terminal illness. And she was lining dudes up and she was getting ready to go have a little fun.
Speaker 1:Oh, she was talking about that bucket list.
Speaker 2:hard yeah yeah, that's not even the messed up story. So I'm tattooing this lady and I'm praying mantis on her foot. She came in with sandals and she's sitting with one of her legs under her knees and the other leg is towards me and obviously we're not talking to each other. But she's feeling comfortable, she's in her little zone on FaceTime and stuff like that, and she starts picking at her feet. I'm not necessarily a big foot person, so, like you, immediately, I'm immediately staring at you a little bit with some not kind eyes and she's going and she starts picking at her feet. She starts picking at her feet and I look up. She grabs and she starts picking at her feet. She starts picking at her feet and I look up.
Speaker 1:She grabs a piece of skin and puts it in her mouth and starts eating it. Okay, that's a lot. Yeah, that's a lot to handle.
Speaker 2:I mean, there's a tattoo story for you. Yeah, I think that hit all the blocks.
Speaker 1:Lamar, I think one story that one's for you. Lamar, you hit everything you were looking for, bro. Yeah yeah, son of a gun.
Speaker 2:So that was an interesting one. I understand people get comfortable and they pick at things and you think you're at home and that is the idea is to keep you comfortable, but not that comfortable. That's real comfortable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's too comfortable.
Speaker 2:So long story short, don't go in there and pick it at your feet and eat your dead skin off your toes. That's nasty.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that that's nasty.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's not actually I'm so I'm gonna take a quick look at the.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna see how's that story. I asked her. I started I was like I get up, let me see. I'm gonna stop and see if we got any questions coming yeah, joy.
Speaker 2:Uh, when do you think you will have your first guest? And we've been going back and forth on first guests. What tone we're going to set with the first guests. If we're shitting on anybody by bringing in certain guests, that makes them not want to come in after we have our first guest, but very soon. Here we kind of really wanted to get all the kinks out before we bring somebody in into our world. We don't want to look foolish in any way and we want to definitely come off as a professional and get a good story across. So as soon as we're able to bring the right individual in who fits to the podcast and the demographic of what it is, man, we're going to have them in there real soon.
Speaker 2:The only I think I guess the biggest thing is like we just there's a lot of people we want to bring in for you guys. We have a great list of individuals that will be interviewing for you guys Some tattoo owners, some military vets, some from the dog world, some artists outside of tattooing, but individuals that were huge in me and Zach's world, some that helped me with mine and some that helped him with his. So those are the types of individuals we'll be bringing on. We don't know who the first one is going to be yet. And that first one man, it's going to be exciting, because we're definitely excited for it too. We know that you guys just don't want me and zach the whole time, even though it should be enough. No, I'm just kidding, it should be enough and honestly, ultimately, we still want it revolving around our goal.
Speaker 1:We still want to be promoting uh health and wellness, correct uh and as it functions in our, in our daily lives, uh, so so we also want our guests uh to to be to be centered around that as well.
Speaker 2:So I would say, within the next two episodes you would see a guest. Maybe probably the next one you might see a guest on here or an interview. Um, and we're really excited about that and thank you for your question. For whoever that, was.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thank you everyone, everyone that's joining right now. If everybody hears me, ok, I hope everybody hears me, ok, yeah.
Speaker 2:Give a thumbs up if you hear us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if everything sounds good on that end and we do want to use you guys today for today's episode. Today's episode is Overtone is a little bit of social media and we've been kind of diving into it. Social media is huge in my world. As a tattooer, I use it to promote my business. It being one of the free platforms to promote a business on is really really nice. Tiktok is not necessarily my thing, yet Instagram is my main form of how I promote my business. But with that there is a downside. You know you got your haters.
Speaker 2:You got your friends that don't like nothing. You got people who just want to be in your business and time bandits people who just want to take your time and ask questions and stuff like that. So we're talking about the positives and the negatives of social media today and we really want to bring you guys in to help develop the conversation that we're having. We're trying a new format today so, you know, be patient with us, as always, and if you have any questions, please feel free to rifle them off now and we will tap in and we will answer those questions to the best of our ability.
Speaker 1:So I'll pitch a question to you right now. Okay, Even though you use social media for a positive aspect to promote your business, as well as what we're doing for the podcast we're podcasting, we're promoting on social media Do you see social media as a negative thing?
Speaker 2:No, I don't see it as a negative thing as far as my business, but I do see it as a negative thing that I have to keep going in order to be relevant forms of business that you really don't necessarily want to do all the time. But it is pivotal as a tattoo artist that you show your work and have that online portfolio or museum that best depicts your work. I enjoy certain aspects of it, but it is forever changing. You know, I guess my attitude changes towards social media. If I'm not doing as good, then I'm on my social media, or not as good as as busy. If I'm not as busy, then I'm going to promote on social media a little bit more. But it's also important not to just, as a tattooist, focus on social media. So there is that gift and a curse thing media. So there is that gift and a curse thing Ways that it's good is I get to meet clientele without having to go to an event and give out business cards and stuff like that. It's a great tool for your starting business because you can get immediate interaction between the client or the consumer and the tattooer. So it just creates this window that anybody can follow through. You don't have to be open at nine o'clock. You're always open on the internet so they could always tap in.
Speaker 2:The negative sides of it is that people think that they could just text you whenever and get a response, or, you know, they feel like they're the most important one when they send a message. I mean, you know, yes, you are important, but there's also hundreds of people that text and DM and stuff like that and it does become somewhat monotonous a little bit. And that doesn't mean I want y'all to stop. Continue to send me messages and help me develop my craft and support Be May Ink as well as this podcast, but I definitely found it, you know. That's. The drawbacks for me is that people attach an emotion to a software which I find a little bit weird. You know what I mean. It's like oh, you unfollowed me. Oh, my gosh.
Speaker 2:Oh man, you're you know I've had people go off on me because I don't follow them. And if I don't follow you, it's because I don't support what it is that you're doing anymore. It's not a direct inclination of who you are as a person, it's just I don't want you in my newspaper. I look at Instagram as a newspaper, a magazine that I read, and every once in a while you get those ads that you rip out, you know, or those pamphlets to buy another magazine. I it is my choice. You know what I mean. I don't like the aspects of having to or the pressure of promoting people. Sometimes I'll do a tattoo, right, and I don't always get good pictures of the tattoos, but people will be like oh, you didn't post my tattoo, why didn't you post my tattoo? And it's just like well, I've got a shitty picture of it.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean, and it doesn't really promote the business the best right now.
Speaker 2:Yes, the tattoo looks solid, know what I mean and it doesn't really promote the business the best right now. Yes, the tattoo looks solid, but or if it's a tattoo that you like and it doesn't do anything for me artistically, it's not necessarily something that I'm going to put at the forefront of my business. You know what I mean. So those are a few of the drawbacks of social media and stuff. I find them triggering sometimes. You know what.
Speaker 1:I mean. So the main takeaway from that is it's not you, it's it's not, it's not the other person, it's not you, it's it's me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I would just say, like, if you're trying to get to your artist and he's not getting back to you and stuff like that, it could be you, it could be that you're getting at him wrong, it could be that your your words don't translate and you could be bugging him. I hear this all the time. Oh, he won't respond to my messages.
Speaker 2:Not necessarily me, but from other people who come and get tattooed from me, which they'll be like oh, you weren't the first person I hit up and I'm like oh, thanks.
Speaker 1:I wonder why the other guy?
Speaker 2:didn't hit you up. But they come to me and they're like oh, you know, this guy didn't hit me up and immediately through your conversation I could tell why he didn't hit you up.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I always ask the questions like well, what did you do? Did you piss him off? You know, because artists are chill man, you know, tattooing is hard. We're trying to salvage everything. You know we want to work with you, but there are just those certain people that don't fit in.
Speaker 2:And social media is a good way of kind of filtering that out. You know you can get consultations on social media. Now they have a FaceTime portion to the app. I will use that to say I'm tattooing somebody out of state and we need a consultation. I'll use Instagram for a reference or for a hub for us to have these meetings and stuff like that or what.
Speaker 2:Ok, one thing that's really really good about social media is the amount of art that you can see within a minute. You know what I mean. Like oh my gosh, there's just so many amazing artists out there. You're like, oh my gosh, there's just so many amazing artists out there. You know, then, and it's tailored to your liking, just like when you talk to someone, it pops up on your algorithm, right? So I really enjoy that aspect of social media is that it is tailored to my liking.
Speaker 2:You know, as far as what it is that I get to view on a daily basis, and I really like that because it allows me to be in Italy basis. And I really like that because it allows me to be in Italy. It allows me to be in Ireland or wherever else I'm, you know, at two o'clock in the morning while I'm looking at other people's art, you know. So it's definitely a cool tool to for research and to check the tone of the world and to see where the art is at. You can see if people are busy, if they're not busy and what people are tapping into.
Speaker 1:You said something and I'm going to take off on that, so I've been doing the social media for the podcast page to try and get some of the burden off you.
Speaker 2:You're already running a business page, as well as a studio page.
Speaker 1:Correct, so I decided to just take it for a week. So we business page as well as his studio page, correct, so I decided I'll just take it for a week. So a week We've been live for a week too. Yeah so that's something worth celebrating. Thank you, thank you for everybody.
Speaker 1:We're at just under 150 downloads and that's huge for us. The support has been huge. But so one thing triggered me. I went a little wild on Instagram and Instagram shut me down. Yeah yeah, I learned some rules. So if you don't know this as a business, don't worry, I did the research. It's anywhere between 200 and 250 follows is the limit per day.
Speaker 2:Only so much positivity in one day.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Otherwise, they think you're a bot. So no, instagram, I'm not a bot, just trying to just try to promote something. So if you haven't been followed back, or if you're feeling a certain type of way because I didn't like back your comment or I didn't, I didn't respond to something that you thought I would respond to this this week, I do have an excuse and that's because Instagram did limit the podcast account. Now this brings me into something. I'm a personal story between the two of us. I triggered Brandon's artistic style towards his brand. I was triggered, y'all yeah and I threw I won't even say what it was, but I threw something.
Speaker 2:Say it yeah, and I threw.
Speaker 1:I won't even say what it was, but I threw something. Say it, okay. So I threw a post up from Inked Mag and, just without even thinking about it, I just got done with the workout. I wanted to communicate with our audience. I wanted to get some interaction, throw a question out there and I asked if tattooers need to be tattooed and had a yes, yes or no question underneath. However, I did not pay attention to any of the colors, any of the size, and I want you to know this is why I get tattooed by this man right here. So, even though it turned out, it was kind of an interesting interaction.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I came in, came in hot. I felt rubbed the wrong way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, we had our first blowout. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, our first podcast fight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but yeah, yeah, it ended up turning out good and it made me real. This is, this is exactly why I get tattooed by this man. This is why, um, I trust him. Uh, he's, he's so detail oriented uh it'll blow your mind. If you, if you, if you have tattoos by him, or if you've ever gotten tattooed by him uh, thank you for this this is why I continue.
Speaker 2:This is why I continue thank you yeah yeah, and you know so, and from my end. I was at home, I was in the kitchen and I I saw you're cooking for the kids. You, yeah, yeah, and you know so, and from my end, I was at home, I was in the kitchen and I I saw you're cooking for the kids.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the kids, and it came off and real nice at first. Yeah, then it went south real fast yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So, and I'm one of those people. I'm a direct line communicator, you know, um, as soon as I'm feeling it, I would like to talk to the individual while it's hot, you know, just so I can honor my emotions. You know what I mean, and sometimes that's a good thing and sometimes that's a bad thing. We I talked about in previous episodes of how I start hot, but I need to start a little bit at medium. Well, on this day, I started a little bit high. I wasn't angry, but I was passionate about what it is that I believed in. As far as the overall tone for Instagram and messages Me being a coil tattooer the picture was of a tattooer with a wand and Ink Mag is a well-respected magazine, but for me, it's one of those taboo magazines that I feel like Go ahead, but for me, it's one of those taboo magazines that I feel like Go ahead.
Speaker 1:Well, what you had said to me was they are notable for for getting crazy discussions. Yeah, like they try to pull discussions from whatever corner Correct Of the tattoo world.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's a. It's a little bit gimmicky, you know what I mean, as far as, like, they're just looking for clickbait and looking for the next big thing to promote so that they can bring longevity to their magazine. Fine by them. But for the tattooers, and how I was raised in my tattoo history and my apprenticeship and stuff like that, I don't necessarily jive with a lot of the topics that they're coming up with and I find them a little bit intrusive or damaging to to the industry and more.
Speaker 2:For they want selfish clicks, you know, and because we you know Zach is running the marketing and stuff like that, you know it was 100 percent needed a conversation we had. We needed to have a conversation so that we could get on the same page of what it is that, what our brand is and how we should promote ourselves and and promote within a certain format. And you know, after a little heated argument and then a long break throughout the day, we ended up catching up with each other in the evening and we hashed all this stuff out, um, which was good, and I feel like we got a lot out of that interaction. So it was a necessary evil, is what I would call that.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Nothing against anything that he was doing, but 10 years within the tattoo industry, I've kind of created a tone for myself and, you know, if it just doesn't fit for me, then I have to be real with him and bring it up. You know, and that, and that's what I did. A lot of the reasons I was hot is because I was. It came straight from the Instagram and I'll tell you it was maybe 10, 15 seconds later. I called him and I was like yo, what the fuck was that, you know? And he was like what the fuck you be with?
Speaker 1:It wasn't on brand. Let's just say it wasn't on brand for VMA Inc or B2Z Podcast. The color scheme was off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we would like to create an overtone. Yeah, we want to create an overtone for you guys. And it's not that he was doing anything wrong. It's just that we're a different type of tattoo brand than what it was that he was promoting. You know, I think I said that the ad looked a little bit more like. If you don't read the verbiage, then it looks like a chick doing permanent makeup.
Speaker 1:Right, something like that.
Speaker 2:And then you know and he was like well, read it, you know what I mean Like that's where we differed, but nonetheless we had an issue. We came together. You know what I mean. Like that's where we differed, but nonetheless we had an issue. We came together, you know what I mean, and we defused that issue, solved it within a day Within a day, and jumped back on the project. And now we're better for that. So if you guys got issues, man don't hold that shit in.
Speaker 1:You don't see any questions on there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Let's see what we got questions on there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no questions. If you guys have any uh questions about social media or any entertaining things that you can help develop this story, please chime in. Uh, we're willing to take some questions now. Um, is there been anything on the internet that has triggered you from um zach, you can answer this question first and then we'll give you guys a second to kind of type something in. We'd like to know what triggered you as well.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, give me something that triggered you besides me the other day calling you uh, well, after, after learning, uh, that instagram is, uh, very watchful on sites, and that's that all has to do with algorithms that they're utilizing, I was able to just relax, relax, relax and let it happen. And April 1st is our, is our big comeback, relaunch day, where I should have full control control of of Instagram. I think our shadow band will end. So, not something that triggered me, but something I learned. We weren't, I felt, comfortable in being on as many directories as possible, but we were missing one. We were missing Pandora, and Pandora is also a big site, yeah, big music app.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:So we got that listed as well last night. So we're just taking things on the chin, taking hits on the chin, learning something new.
Speaker 2:I got a question. What you got Is it taboo to like another woman's photos if you're in a relationship? And if it's not, then when does it become taboo? What is that line, that imaginary line that your woman's like hold up?
Speaker 1:that's too much. Do I think there is ever a problem with it? Yes, no, I actually don't think there's ever a problem with it. But I'm a liker man. It doesn't take a lot for me to like something. I'm very free with my likes. If something just hits me the right way, I'm all about it, even if that's the curve of a woman's life.
Speaker 1:Sorry, but yeah, if you're in a relationship should you have respect for the person you're dating, absolutely. That person should have respect for themselves and bring it up to you. I like confrontation In a relationship. Maybe that's where some of my relationships failed. It was not enough confrontation, but I do. I bring the heat. I feel like you have a different view on this, so what's your view on the same question?
Speaker 2:Okay. Do you think it's wrong? I think it's wrong if I'm hurting my lady's feelings. Yes, but do they have to bring that to your attention? Do I personally think it's wrong? I think it's wrong if I'm hurting my lady's feelings.
Speaker 1:Yes, but do they have to bring that to your attention, but do I?
Speaker 2:personally think it's wrong. No, okay, I consider it to be like going to a car show and then seeing a nice car and be like, ooh, I like that.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, yeah, you know you can't.
Speaker 2:Just because I'm in a relationship doesn't stop me from recognizing beauty.
Speaker 1:Just I'm in a relationship doesn't stop me from recognizing beauty Just because I have a car. Just because I got a car Doesn't mean I can't recognize somebody else's car for the beauty that it is.
Speaker 2:Now, if I'm up at two o'clock in the morning yes, Looking at ass and liking stuff then I'm wrong.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. That's overindulging, I feel like, yes, but if it's somebody like, say, it's model, okay, and I've known them for years and they take scandally clad photos or whatever, I'm still going to continue to like those just because of the relationship that I've dealt. You know I'm supporting your business. If your brand is ass, then whatever.
Speaker 2:You know and I enjoy you as a human being, then I'll probably just I'll like it, you know. But if my lady were to be like, are you doing too much? Like I wouldn't say that she's wrong, you know, because I've made her feel a certain type of way. But that's a conversation to be had, that is a conversation to be had.
Speaker 2:And for me I just I, I guess I limit my likes to stuff like that. I don't, I'm not going to like no ass, you know, unless I know that person and what it is that they're doing. Um, if I don't know them and I'm like an ass, then it's like okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:You're actively searching for a little bit of a piece of shit, so so so I I know it's a, it's a, it's cliche, but I feel like this rounds out our social media Too much of a good thing is bad. Yeah, or too much of anything can be bad, so so yeah.
Speaker 2:Too much of people do this all the time, Venting on the internet about their relationships. I know when you guys have broken up because you got a little quote saying oh, the river runs over the rocks and I'll be better tomorrow or something like that.
Speaker 1:It's an aspirational thing.
Speaker 2:How do you feel about people communicating their negative things in their lives on social media?
Speaker 1:I feel that's free therapy. It's free therapy, yeah, If they feel comfortable and vulnerable enough to put it online. But then you're depends on how much you put online. If you just put enough to get attention, then maybe you shouldn't be just trying to get attention.
Speaker 2:Right and okay. I guess. The question is now how would you feel from the other side of it too? You're in a relationship, this relationship crumbles and you are seen as the asshole, and she's on the internet talking about. Zach ain't shit, fuck him. He wasn't shit, ain't never going to be shit. Do you still feel the same way? Is that still free?
Speaker 1:therapy or you're like hold on, it's still free therapy. Obviously, she's saying something. She's got to get it off her chest. Mm-hmm, All right off her chest. Who might have tell her? Tell her, tell her. No, Obviously there was an issue with the relationship if we couldn't have that communication in private, Right, Right. So if she feels the need, she needs to put it, then that relationship was doomed to fail in the beginning. Yeah it could be right it could be.
Speaker 2:I personally don't want my significant other going to social media to express our differences or our failures. You know, what I mean. I'd like my failures to be to happen in the private. Yeah, obviously I don't get a choice in what other people do, but I've never had anybody do that to me.
Speaker 1:I feel, I feel like that's a good, a good spot to round us out at. Yeah, if we're doing good, let's give it a quick check and then we'll be ready for our roundup.
Speaker 2:We're looking good. We're looking good. We're looking good, no questions.
Speaker 1:Sorry that pause was us looking at social media, the topic of today's post.
Speaker 2:Hey, what's up, Jay A?
Speaker 1:lot of love. We're getting shown a lot of love right now.
Speaker 2:Jay, how do you feel about social media and being outed in relationships or putting your significant other on your page? Do you ever get pressed? Chime in you guys, chime in Frank, chime in. Ask a question about social media that we can talk about.
Speaker 1:So for our roundup today, I found I got two quotes. Is that all right? Yeah, go for it. They both have to do with passion. I feel like passion was the topic of the week, not just today's episode. What do you think? Yeah, you like passion. Yeah. So I have one from Oprah Winfrey. She said passion is energy. Feel the power that comes from focusing on what excites you. I felt that this week I felt some power and I also have one that I feel. That's why the second one came in. It's from Vincent Van Gogh. He said I would rather die of passion than of boredom. Two, two, two. I decided to make a two for one special here.
Speaker 2:I got a question.
Speaker 1:I got a question.
Speaker 2:We'll remain anonymous, just because I don't want to get you guys in trouble. Okay, women request you have their name in their bio. Oh, so is that protocol for relationships? Now, if you were in a relationship, does your lady need to be within that little bio section saying, hey, married in a relationship, with the tag or the ad in it?
Speaker 2:Um, for me, no, I don't feel like it's, because that's my chain page, that's my channel. You know what I mean. It's a very it's not a super personal channel, but I also don't want everybody to be able to get close to me like that. You know, yes, I want you to know certain aspects of me, but I don't want you to know who my lady is, because I got people that necessarily don't care for me. Or, and if there are a lot of private things about me, but the most private thing it would be my family. You know what I mean, and so I'm going to say no on that one. I don't think you got to put them on there at all. So if she's stressing you out about that, don't put her on there, because it's your page. She could put it on hers. Be with the answers for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was good, and to caveat off that I never have. Yeah, yeah, I never felt the need to, so I never have. I never even thought about it. But yeah, thanks for the question.
Speaker 2:Jay says I keep my relationship private. It's been an amazing. It's been an amazing. It's been an amazing. I tattooed Jay there Baltimore I believe from Baltimore and him and his lady have flown in and they came and got tattoos Solid, both of them Super solid and they have a strong, strong relationship. He's also got a pretty good web presence as well. It's a J-A-Y-Y underscore, h-v-s-t-l. So if you guys want to give Jay a follow, he's man, that dude could dress man, he got fashion and all that stuff on lock.
Speaker 2:He's a good dude, too Great story. I prefer to keep my privates too, jay, I like privacy. I feel like the less opinions I can get upon my relationship, especially when I'm going through something, the better off we are, and that's me and my lady Sometimes.
Speaker 1:Too many cooks in the kitchen right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we all know when you get into an argument and your lady leaves and she's been talking to her punk-ass friend and she comes back regurgitating all her stuff, don't we hate that? Yeah too, man. So like we know when y'all doing that, we know when you're doing it. It's not you coming, we know what you were saying. You coming back with what somebody else would say, and we don't want your friend's opinion upon our relationship. We want yours, we want yours, we want yours. I feel like a lot of relationships would be better if people were just brutally honest, brutally honest.
Speaker 1:Well, I think that was a pretty successful episode.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man. How about you? Is that a half an hour already?
Speaker 1:We're over a half hour Wow.
Speaker 2:Listen to that, guys. Yeah, so I was keeping our time in check.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you're ready to sign off man, I'm ready to sign off.
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Speaker 1:We really appreciate that guys, and for today, we love it, we love the feedback. Again to reiterate, and if you liked what we did today, let us know and we'll try and make it happen again. But, yes, more to reiterate, and if you liked what we did today, let us know and we'll try and make it happen again. But yes, more to come. Guests coming soon. Guests coming soon and there's going to be a new episode. This episode will be available in a week and a half and we have a brand new episode dropping on Monday, along with some, some other clips, because we we actually we actually videotaped the last episode. We posted some of that up later yeah, we did videotape it came out good so, yeah, much love to everybody.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thanks, guys.